Dads worth less than moms around house: study

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Dads worth less than moms around house: study


(Reuters) - Fathers of America, you may consider yourselves indispensable, but a new survey says you're only worth about one-third as much as mom around the house.

In fact, you are not even keeping up with inflation.

Insurance news and data website Insure.com released its annual Father's Day Index on Monday, an attempt to calculate the value in wage terms of the work a father typically does around the house.

The value this year was some $20,248, about $1,000 less than the inflation-adjusted value of 10 years ago.

The website matched government wage data to 13 different fatherly household tasks to calculate the index. Among the jobs were barbecuing (matched to the U.S. Department of Labor's "cooks, all other"), killing spiders ("pest control workers") and mowing the lawn ("grounds maintenance workers").

By comparison, the website calculated a typical mother's household work at $60,182 -- nearly three times greater.

The disparity is notable given research showing women still make less than men for the doing the same hours at the same jobs -- 77 cents on the dollar, on average.

(Reporting by Ben Berkowitz; Editing by Maureen Bavdek)

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Ah, now the 77 cents is for the same hours at the same job.
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 Oh,it's 77 cents this week?

Fe-Fi-Fo-Fum

Who want's to bet that 'work around the house' does not include all of the outdoor work, maintenance, carrying all of the heavy things and so forth?


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AnubisRox

Wow, just in time for Father's Day. How ironic.  :rolle:
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Quentin0352

And? Why haven't they been reporting on all the scum fathers not paying child support and the heroic police doing their usual Father's Day Roundup of them?

dr e

These people are bullshit artists...without the art.  lol

Here's a link to the father's page

http://www.insure.com/articles/lifeinsurance/fathers-day-index.html

and here's a link to the mother's page:

http://www.insure.com/articles/lifeinsurance/the-mothers-day-index.html

Have a look through the charts and see what you think.   :rolle: :rolle: :rolle: :rolle: :rolle:

They gave moms some real dough for some questionable activities but they didn't include dad's in many of the things that they claimed moms do even though these are surely shared activities. $8000 as a summer activity planner?  Are you kidding me?  Then theres the $20000 she gets for taking care of the kids. Dad's don't do any of that?  duh. 

Yup.  It's rigged for father's day.  What a hateful culture we live in.



Mother's Day Index 2012: The numbers


Mom job   BLS occupation used   Hours per week/weeks per year   Hourly wage   Annual Mom cost
Cooking   Cooks   14 hrs./52 weeks   $9.08   $6,607
Driving   Taxi drivers and chauffeurs   9 hrs./52 weeks   $13.83   $6,470
Helping with homework   Other teachers and instructors   10 hrs./40 weeks   $18.48   $7,390
Taking care of the kids   Child care worker   40 hrs./52 weeks   $9.58   $19,916
Nursing wounds   Licensed practical and licensed vocational nurses   2 hrs./12 weeks   $18.00   $432
Cleaning up   Maids and housekeeping cleaners   10 hrs./52 weeks   $9.80   $5,096
Planning parties   Meeting & convention planners   64 hours a year   $22.30   $1,427
Summer activity planner   Miscellaneous community and social service specialists   40 hrs./12 weeks   $16.90   $8,112
Haircuts   Hairdressers, hairstylists and cosmetologists   0.5 hrs./52 weeks   $11.00   $286
Shopping for the family   Personal care aides   3 hrs./52 weeks   $10.18   $1,587
Family finances   Accountants and auditors   0.5 hrs./52 weeks   $23.90   $621
Yard work   Grounds maintenance workers   1 hr./52 weeks   $10.63   $553
Fixing up the house   Designers   40 hours a year   $20.40   $816
Finding out what the kids are up to   Private detectives and investigators   40 hours a year   $21.73   $869
Total: $60,182
Wage data source: http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat39.htm
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If marriage is such a great deal for men, and such a bad deal for women, why are women always complaining that men are reluctant to get married? It seems to me that the best thing that we can do for women is to keep playing them video games. At least we won't be exploiting the poor dears.


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Dad Job: Security (One who has to get up if a sound is heard in the middle of the night, the one who has to defend his family against an intruder).
BLS occupation Used: Security guards and gaming surveillance officers
Hours per Week / Weeks Per Year: 70 hrs./52 weeks (Low Number, but could be as high as 90 hrs)
Hourly Wage: $13.60
Annual Dad Cost: $49,504
 do what I need to do to protect my loved ones, friends, and family. This is what men do.

mens_issues

I covered this back in 2008 under "If you'll by my bodyguard..."

http://standyourground.com/forums/index.php?topic=15920.msg177058#msg177058

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Remember the 1980s song from Paul Simon "If you'll be my bodyguard, I will be your long lost pal." Well, a husband essentially acts as a bodyguard for a wife whenever he is with her i.e. he is expected to defend her. This is the "protect" part of providing and protecting.

The average salary of a bodyguard can be found here:

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Bodyguard/Hourly_Rate

I'll take $25/hr. as a reasonable average in the United States, although places like New York City have a going rate of $50/hr.

There are 8760 hours in a year (i.e. 24 x 365). Assuming a man has a 40 hour work week 52 weeks a year will give you 2080 hours a year a man is at work. This means that 6590 hours a year the average man will be with his wife when he is not at work. OK, I didn't take into account commuting and overtime. Subtract 260 hours a year for commuting (assuming 30 minutes each way average, or 5 hours a week times 52 weeks a year). That leaves you with 6330 hours a week. Let's assume the average overtime worked per week is 5 hours (an understatement in many cases, but this is just an average). That would be 5 times 52, or 260 hours. That leaves 6070 hours a year that a husband is with his wife, and therefore an unpaid bodyguard.

Now, 6070 hours a year multiplied by $25 per hour comes to ...

$151,750 per year! Wow! And that's from a man's bodyguard duties alone.

Now add to that the average man's salary. In 2003 the Census Bureau found this to be $33,517.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States#Education_and_Gender

Adjusting for inflation and salary increases of about 3% a year, this would come to about $38,000 per year for 2008.

Add this to $151,750, and what do you get?

$189,750 per year for the average husband who earns an average salary and spends an average amount of time with his wife as an unpaid bodyguard.

And this doesn't even cover "plumbing, auto repair, carpentry, painting, and landscaping work" mentioned by the editor. I don't have time to calculate that here, but maybe someone could add to the nearly $190,000 a year for what a man contributes to his wife by earning a salary and protecting her (the "provide and protect" part of being a man with a partner).

I'm sure we could get the annual contribution of a husband over $200,000 a year by adding the extra duties of plumbing, auto repair, carpentry, painting, and landscaping work.

Note: Granted, an average man may not get the training that a professional bodyguard does, but neither would an average stay at home mom be comparable to a psychologist or CEO in training.

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wh666

A family unit cannot be quantified by the amount of chores one performs.

There are other ways to contribute.

In the spirit of Father's day, I would advise people watch a documentary "bbc - biology of dads", which shows scientifically, how the participation of a father during pregnancy, birth and throughout the rearing of a child is essential and even has a hormonal effect making the pregnancy easier physically for the woman.

If the report even totted up the amount of "dad's taxi" was used, the partners would come out on par with each other.

bluegrass

Wow I wish I could find a mechanic who only charges $18.54 per hour.  Last time I checked the going rate for labor at the auto shop is something like $50 -$60 an hour.
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bluegrass

Also I just did some quick research and you can hire a nanny to do all of those things for about $31000 per year (that's the high mid end from what I gathered).  Also, she has to take your direction and when you fire her any severance package is completely at your discretion -- AND -- you get to keep the kids.

So really this is nothing more than an advertisement for what a bad deal wives are.
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Quentin0352


Also I just did some quick research and you can hire a nanny to do all of those things for about $31000 per year (that's the high mid end from what I gathered).  Also, she has to take your direction and when you fire her any severance package is completely at your discretion -- AND -- you get to keep the kids.

So really this is nothing more than an advertisement for what a bad deal wives are.


Correct but our system will actually PAY you ten to hundreds of thousands of dollars to kick out the dad so in a way the nanny is a lot more expensive. After all, you have to pay her still instead of stealing all she owns when you fire her and taking 40% of her earnings for 18-21 years after.

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