The Latest Update on the Jodi Arias Trail

[Captain Courageous]

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1155606982001/

[Iron John]

GUILTY!@!@!!! FIRST DEGREE!@!!@


After months of twists and turns in a dramatic trial rife with sex, lies and digital images, an Arizona jury Wednesday found Jodi Arias guilty of first-degree murder in the slaying of ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander.


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http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/08/justice/arizona-jodi-arias-verdict/index.html

[davis2ab]

I actually feel sorry for her.

The look on her face when the verdict was read.

It had to be.  It is a shame.

She was so confident that she would get off by complaining about the type of sex, spider man pants, etc. -- total BS.
She was so confident that she was "too pretty" to be convicted.

This verdict will save a lot of lives as future potential killers think twice.

I do not feel strongly about her getting death although she clearly deserves both in absolute terms and relative to others sentenced to death.

For me, it is good enough that she is serious punished at a minimum she'll spend decades in prison.

[neoteny]

Let's acknowledge the prosecutor, Juan Martinez's work. He put enormous effort into this trial: he had to beat the "abused woman's self defense" trope, which is a quite powerful one. He had the moral courage to relentlessly attack all the witnesses who tried to put the victim, Alexander on trial. Some said that he was often over the top; if that's what it took to get a conviction in this particular case, so be it.

[AnubisRox]

I couldn't be happier!!!!

[davis2ab]

She is claiming that she prefers death.

I wonder if she is playing some kind of "reverse psychology" with the jury or if she really means that.

Actually, I think the reverse psychology thing might work.

Let's not give her what she wants, and her life is spared.

[dr e]

Good.  Now let's see what the sentencing produces.  There is still opportunity for a pussy pass...

[Captain Courageous]

I actually feel sorry for her.

The look on her face when the verdict was read.

It had to be.  It is a shame.

She was so confident that she would get off by complaining about the type of sex, spider man pants, etc. -- total BS.
She was so confident that she was "too pretty" to be convicted.
This verdict will save a lot of lives as future potential killers think twice.
I do not feel strongly about her getting death although she clearly deserves both in absolute terms and relative to others sentenced to death.

For me, it is good enough that she is serious punished at a minimum she'll spend decades in prison.

Yes it will!

[Galt]

Sometimes I wonder about the "added value" of the attorneys in situations like this.

The defense attorneys racked up millions of dollars of fees, expenses, expert fees etc. for the taxpayers of Arizona.

The result they have obtained up to now is equal to or worse than the result that Jodi Arias would have obtained acting as her own lawyer. It is also equal to or worse than the result a random 5-year-old girl would have obtained as the defense attorney.

[neoteny]

Sometimes I wonder about the "added value" of the attorneys in situations like this.

The defense attorneys racked up millions of dollars of fees, expenses, expert fees etc. for the taxpayers of Arizona.

The result they have obtained up to now is equal to or worse than the result that Jodi Arias would have obtained acting as her own lawyer. It is also equal to or worse than the result a random 5-year-old girl would have obtained as the defense attorney.

The "added value" isn't determined by the outcome; it is the competent professional representation itself.

The defense theory in this case was self-defense. Sure it was found to be invalid by the jury: but that is the essence of the trial. If it wouldn't have been presented in a vigorous. competent & professional manner then that would have constituted "ineffective counsel", which is in itself a possible issue for appeal and a possible cause for invalidating the verdict.

[davis2ab]

The area where I am would never pay a defense lawyer what that defense lawyer reportedly got paid.
Further, it would never allow a case like this to go on for 4 months.

A typical death penalty case might last 2 or 3 weeks.

I was not impressed by the defense, and I found his statement about not liking his client 9 out of 10 days atrocious. I wonder whether he was trying to build error into the record to save his clients life (sometimes defense lawyers willingness admit to inadequate representation to help their clients on appeal).

It is very important that at least the lawyer like the client if no one else does.  A lawyer should always present himself as his client's friend and show respect for his client. This is true even if the client has done something horrible. Even people who have done horrible things need to have supporters to present the best image. Even people who have done horrible things arguably and usually actually do have a good side that can be respected by the lawyer.

As for the prosecutor, he is a blasted hero. I didn't watch but a small portion of his performance but I was impressed.  A lot of prosecutors would have just let her go. In my area, two women within just a few months shot their ex husbands or boyfriends when they went to pick up their children. Neither were prosecuted.  One of the men in particular was a very well respected member of the community (a fire chief or deputy chief) with no history of wrongdoing whatsoever.

[LSBeene]

I am actually against the death penalty - but purely because, as many here can personnaly attest, we MRAs have often seen for ourselves how often and with with the amount of ease a person can be falsely convicted.

And - in Jodi Arias' case - the idea that she'll spend the next 30-40 years of her life behind bars brings great joy to me.  She's hot, which only means she'll be a hot commodity in prison for some bull to make Jodi her personal oral to genital message device.   He own beauty will make her property, and not be a commodity.

Jody Arias will go in and for the first 5 years or so have hope and nurture the hope that there is some hope of freedom.  Then over the next decade or so she'll come to realize that "this" (those gray bars and unmovable daily routines) are her life.

Oh, sure, she's hot and I'd bet dollars to donuts that she actually nets some loser to be her boyfriend or husband even behind bars - there are murder junkies / groupies out there.

But given 10-15 years, when the spark and light in her eyes grows dim, and she's purely living off of the memories of when she was young and hot and men would trip overthemselves to do her bidding, I'll still be watching cable tv, eating steak, enjoying intimacy with my spouse, and having a daily reminder of 1st hand knowledge of what a sunrise looks like - and she won't.

Bye bye bitch.  Enjoy servicing your new partner - faking being in love and telling your 300 pound paramour you love the taste of her juices, just so you have protection from being shanked and beaten.  Enjoy your new "life".

(not sorry for the bitterness of this post btw)

Steven

[Galt]

I was not impressed by the defense, and I found his statement about not liking his client 9 out of 10 days atrocious. I wonder whether he was trying to build error into the record to save his clients life (sometimes defense lawyers willingness admit to inadequate representation to help their clients on appeal).

I thought pretty much the same thing, and I noticed that Juan (rightly) objected to that statement.

He probably wasn't trying to build error into the record, though, he may have been trying to come across as "folksy" or something. I also don't understand why he was putting so many sexual details into this trial.

In any case, Jodi did NOT have a big smirk on her face like she usually does when the verdict was read.

[Iron John]

She's under suicide watch now.  I hope these people do their job well.  I want her alive and healthy for the rest of her natural life.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2013/05/09/nr-banfield-karas-jodi-arias-psych-ward.cnn

[Captain Courageous]

What are the bookies giving for odds that she'll be given the death sentence?