The Latest Update on the Jodi Arias Trail

Started by Captain Courageous, Feb 06, 2013, 06:51 PM

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Galt


I can't help but believe that if she'd --say -- only shot and killed him in the shower, she'd probably be going free.  She just went too far overboard really.


Yup. If she had just pulled a Mary Winkler and shot him in the back while he was sleeping, she'd get time served and lots of gifts from people.

Stabbing him 27 times and slitting his throat like a pro was going a bit too far even for a woman, though.

davis2ab

The jury foreman mentioned verbal and emotional abuse as a reason for their difficulty resolving the death penalty issue.

WTF?

I have been verbally and emotionally abused to one extent or another by every person that I have ever had a substantial relationship with.

It kinds of goes with the territory.

People say and do ugly things even nice people. They just do.

That is absolutely no justification for killing them.

neoteny

The jury foreman mentioned verbal and emotional abuse as a reason for their difficulty resolving the death penalty issue.


It seems that was the issue of which the four jurors, who -- for whatever reasons -- couldn't vote for death, held onto as "mitigation".

I suspect that quite a few "death qualified" jurors lie ... even to themselves when at jury selection are being asked if they can render a punishment verdict of death. There's a large difference between saying "sure I can vote to sentence to death a hypothetical evildoer" and saying "yeah, Jodi wasted Travis in an especially nasty way and for that I vote to have her executed".

This is where that 18 days of "testimony" by Jodi paid off: it "humanized" her, even with all of her lying & smirking & smart-ass evasions. She plays the wounded femininity part reasonably well, at least well enough to garner some sympathy when it got down to a decision if she's going to be sentenced to death.

I believe that ultimately it comes down to the age-old societal calculus: women's lives worth more than men's lives. Nowadays for a woman to be sentenced to death -- and get executed -- it takes multiple killings or killing another woman or something similarly heavy-duty. Killing a single man just doesn't seem to cut it anymore. It is kind of a reversal of the time when a woman who killed her husband was tried for petit treason and the punishment was being burned at the stake.
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Wojciech Hubert Zurek: Decoherence, einselection, and the quantum origins of the classical

neoteny

Jodi Arias wants lead attorney removed for his 'utter poverty of people skills'

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In the new motion filed in Maricopa County Superior Court, Arias describes how Nurmi brushed off a meltdown she had during the trial. Arias had broken down while discussing whether a phone sex recording between her and Alexander should be played in open court.

"Mr. Nurmi, however, in his utter poverty of people skills, simply said to me with contempt, 'You're not going to get your way just because you throw a tantrum,'" Arias writes. "Judge, this was no tantrum. Far from it. This was a full-blown emotional meltdown. I wasn't throwing a fit, I was falling apart.

"Having known me for 3.5 years at that point, Kirk Nurmi should have easily discerned this," the motion continues, "but his failure to do so shows he lacks the capacity for empathy and chooses anger over attempting to understand any impairment his client may be experiencing in direct relation to the case and court proceedings."

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Poor, misunderstood Jodi.

At least she's spending her time writing motions from prison, not selling her story on the outside.
The spreading of information about the [quantum] system through the [classical] environment is ultimately responsible for the emergence of "objective reality." 

Wojciech Hubert Zurek: Decoherence, einselection, and the quantum origins of the classical

Galt

To translate that: "Nurmi didn't fall for my manipulation tactics, and it really pisses me off."



Galt

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Nov 08, 2013, 07:05 PM Last Edit: Nov 09, 2013, 04:18 PM by Galt
She blinks very little at most points - I have always thought that was the sign of a psychopath.

Does anyone here have more of an inkling about blinking and being a psychopath?

P.S.: I can't really find good videos of Hugo Schwyzer blinking or not while he manipulates his ass off.


Galt

I think not blinking means that you are extremely calm. Psychopaths can tell the truth or lie, or mix and match, and it doesn't make a bit of difference, because the goal is to manipulate and the truth or non-truth is really irrelevant.

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