Oh this is just TOO delicious!!

Started by Assault, Mar 13, 2013, 09:58 AM

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Assault

For those that don't know me, I am well known in my field by law enforcement of all stripes in canada as the "go to guy" for martial arts/self defence training as well as firearms, chemical agents, hand cuffing, batons, SCBA, etc, etc. I'm not trying to toot my own horn, just giving a glimpse of some background info.

I have been asked to give seminars for various law enforcement agencies and SWAT teams in Canada because I understand the Use of Force Management Model they must abide by since I deal with it every day in the field as well.

I was just contacted by federal law enforcement to ask if I would train and Internationally known Women's Rights Activist who's life has been threatened and is currently in hiding.  :laughing6:  In true female form she has been blabbing to whomever will listen as to who she is and what the current threats are against her!!!  :rolle:  :BangHead:

I'm quite torn on this because although I despise femi-twits; I don't believe in stoning women to death, honour killings, etc; which is the type of activism this woman is involved in from the mid east. She sounds like a loon as well from her description and interviews that have been conducted by people on the way up the ladder to me.

This should be interesting, and I'll keep you posted if it turns out she's your typical feminist dirtbag. 
Feminism is the product of female selfishness, compounded by male chivalry.

- Peter Zohrab -

neoteny

Can you teach her without touching her? Because if you can't, you are exposing yourself to possible accusations...
The spreading of information about the [quantum] system through the [classical] environment is ultimately responsible for the emergence of "objective reality." 

Wojciech Hubert Zurek: Decoherence, einselection, and the quantum origins of the classical

Assault


Can you teach her without touching her? Because if you can't, you are exposing yourself to possible accusations...



Yikes!! Holy crap I never even THOUGHT about that!! Damn, thanks for the heads up. I was in the old thinking pattern of "men protecting women"; I had a momentary relapse, thanks.  :yikes:
Feminism is the product of female selfishness, compounded by male chivalry.

- Peter Zohrab -

neoteny

If it ever gets down to you instructing her, maybe you should set up a camera and tape the sessions. You can tell her that your professional development requires it: you're reviewing the recordings to see where you can improve your teaching methods &c.
The spreading of information about the [quantum] system through the [classical] environment is ultimately responsible for the emergence of "objective reality." 

Wojciech Hubert Zurek: Decoherence, einselection, and the quantum origins of the classical

Assault

The more I think about this, the more I'm kind of turned off of the whole idea actually. Why should I help someone who openely hates me and my gender? I think I'll tell her to go find someone else.
Feminism is the product of female selfishness, compounded by male chivalry.

- Peter Zohrab -

Iron John


Can you teach her without touching her? Because if you can't, you are exposing yourself to possible accusations...



+1000

Tigerman


The more I think about this, the more I'm kind of turned off of the whole idea actually. Why should I help someone who openely hates me and my gender? I think I'll tell her to go find someone else.


I would do it. In my book she can't be all bad if she is opposing stonings and honour killings. She might well open up to you if you tell her that you are also appalled by these practices , then should she subsequently come up with any man hating crap you can then question her humanitarian credentials and ask her why is she trying so hard to negate the otherwise good work she is doing etc. This is just my 2 cents but it could provide an opportunity for you to teach her more than martial arts ie a more balanced form of humanitarian activism.  :toothy9:

neoteny

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Mar 13, 2013, 02:11 PM Last Edit: Mar 13, 2013, 02:18 PM by neoteny
She might well open up to you if you tell her that you are also appalled by these practices , then should she subsequently come up with any man hating crap you can then question her humanitarian credentials and ask her why is she trying so hard to negate the otherwise good work she is doing etc.


Or she might get all pissed off that a male who makes his living with expertise in the patriarchal art of violence has the cheek to ideologically "patronize" her... so she can feel all righteous in trying to bring him down with whatever weapons she can wield.

This is entirely Assault's call and I can't fault him if he's careful. The MRM has plenty of martyrs; there's absolutely no need for more of them. Let the women take care of themselves if they think they're equal; or let them choose "allies" to instruct them in self-defense.
The spreading of information about the [quantum] system through the [classical] environment is ultimately responsible for the emergence of "objective reality." 

Wojciech Hubert Zurek: Decoherence, einselection, and the quantum origins of the classical

Captain Courageous

How about keeping a witness handy at all times? Say someone who can act as a sparing partner or practice partner (Uke) and an eye-witness at the same time. How about adding an asistant who fills the need and acts as a trainer of some kind? Someone who can handle injuries and keep everybody "hydrated" or something? You and two witnesses - who can both be female, if you trust them.

The worst she can do behind your back is call you macho or claim you were inept in some way.

BRIAN


How about keeping a witness handy at all times? Say someone who can act as a sparing partner or practice partner (Uke) and an eye-witness at the same time. How about adding an asistant who fills the need and acts as a trainer of some kind? Someone who can handle injuries and keep everybody "hydrated" or something? You and two witnesses - who can both be female, if you trust them.

The worst she can do behind your back is call you macho or claim you were inept in some way.


This is the most sensible course of action you can take in my opinion. If you refuse to help you will get a professional backlash. Do it the way CappyC has outlined it and earn some brownie points and maybe even a favor or two.
You may sleep soundly at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence upon those who seek to harm you.

dr e

Just tell her that a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.  We are all equal and she should call in a female to help her.  lol

Forgive my cynicism.

Or then again, maybe just charge her double your usual fee.   :toothy9:

And tell her it is being donated to an MRA group.
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

Assault

Wow, that woman is a train wreck!! I met with her tonight to discuss what exactly she was looking for and why my name came up as the guy to go to, and I left the meeting convinced she is batshit crazy.  :laughing6:

She was going on and on about the huge men that wanted to kill her and she needed to defend herself. She was telling me that I had NO IDEA what kind of men these were and they would kill me in a split second. I told her that it made no sense to come to me then if these men were so dangerous as I would only be able to teach her what I know, and she had already stated they could easily kill me. I basically scared her a bit with a reality check on her abilities to defend herself and told her I was not going to give her any type of private lesson where I was alone with her. I told her she could sign up for classes just like everyone else, and she would be able to defend herself in about 6 months if she trained really hard at least 4 days a week.

She kept asking about private lessons and asking the price. I told her I charge $150.00 an hour for private lessons but she didn't seem to like that too much. She was very sporadic and flighty and kept jumping from topic to topic. I left her with the female club owner (whom I told earlier I wasn't going to teach this feminist because of her hatred toward men) and went and taught my class. The owner came up to me later and said the crazy chick decided that maybe she should try cardio kickboxing lessons at the local Goodlife gym because I was too intimidating and expensive.  :laughing6:  I replied to the owner that the crazy chicks life must not have been in that much danger if she was willing to dicker about the price. If my life were in serious danger and I felt there was someone who could help me, I'd pay whatever I had to, or do whatever I had to in order to get that help.

On a side note, the crazy chick was very sexually aggressive for a feminist who supposedly hates men. She kept touching my arms and saying how muscular I was and how everyone said I was the guy to train with. I'm pretty sure I avoided a whole lot of unwanted problems and drama by denying this woman my time.

Thanks for the help guys.....I thought you might enjoy the story.  :greener:
Feminism is the product of female selfishness, compounded by male chivalry.

- Peter Zohrab -

neoteny

She kept asking about private lessons and asking the price. I told her I charge $150.00 an hour for private lessons but she didn't seem to like that too much.


Neatly done: you've priced yourself out of her range.

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On a side note, the crazy chick was very sexually aggressive for a feminist who supposedly hates men. She kept touching my arms and saying how muscular I was and how everyone said I was the guy to train with.


Why am I not surprised...  :rolle:

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I'm pretty sure I avoided a whole lot of unwanted problems and drama by denying this woman my time.


You bet.
The spreading of information about the [quantum] system through the [classical] environment is ultimately responsible for the emergence of "objective reality." 

Wojciech Hubert Zurek: Decoherence, einselection, and the quantum origins of the classical

Tigerman

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On a side note, the crazy chick was very sexually aggressive for a feminist who supposedly hates men. She kept touching my arms and saying how muscular I was and how everyone said I was the guy to train with. I'm pretty sure I avoided a whole lot of unwanted problems and drama by denying this woman my time.

After reading that I'm glad you didn't take my advice - the woman sounds like a walking false rape allegation dispenser!  :yikes:

Galt


She was going on and on about the huge men that wanted to kill her and she needed to defend herself. She was telling me that I had NO IDEA what kind of men these were and they would kill me in a split second.


She sounds like a huge drama queen.

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