Here is my advice, if you want it.
First of all,
To be quite frank with you, I left this board with for the very specific reason that I knew when I left, it would turn to shit. I wanted it to. I knew I could take on the new parade of men's rights activists that were infiltrating the board if I wanted. I've taken on an entire campus full of foaming-at-the-mouth feminists before. But I didn't want to. I wanted it to dwindle. Mostly, because no one ever believes me when I start telling them that men's rights activists are misogynists, and victim-minded, and socialist. So, I knew when I left, the place would dwindle into just that, and instead of having to prove my point to other people, I could just send a link!!
And guess what. I can.
If other members aren't willing to take a stand against (any given ugly behavior), like I used to, you are already doomed. That's the only way that something like this could get cleaned up. And that doesn't happen here. In fact, instead of standing up to (any given ugly behavior), it seems the more (ugly behavior types) actually bring out MORE ugly behavior in other members, who might be rational when around other rational influences.
And I predicted as such. People tell me there are "mild" men's rights types or that the bitter woman-haters are only a "radical fringe." Well, even in the "mild" ones I still detect bitterness and woman-hating - and I always have. All it takes is to be around more "radical" types and the "mild" types get bulldozed like pancakes. They get sucked into more and more misery, becoming worse themselves - since they lack moral righteousness, and were already "leaning" that way anyway, even if they look even-tempered. Really, your only hope for cleaning up the boards, from what I can see, is Dan. He is the only one morally righteous enough to stay on a right path and not a wrong one. I highly doubt Dan cares though - I know I sure don't.
I predicted from the beginning that these forums would turn into this. When I saw the main page as saying it was going to stand up for "men" and "men's rights," I saw it right away. People who speak about "rights" that aren't *individual* rights are always victim-minded, just like feminists are as they advocate for "women's rights." At first, it was just SheThinks refugees, and what was good about SheThinks and the IWF spilled over onto this forum. But it just ... dwindled. Like I expected it to. And like it always will - when you try to stand on such faulty principles as "men's" rights", and don't take a stand for common sense or reason or individual rights or gender healing or anything else positive.
My advice is to tear the place down, especially if it continues down the path its been on ... with rational people leaving all the time, and the rest of them getting sucked into the hatred. This place is a liability not an asset. And so as long as it's like this, I will use it to prove my point about men's rights activists.
