Pavlov's Feminists

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Pavlov's Feminists



Pavlov, Ivan Petrovich (1849-1936), Russian physiologist and Nobel laureate, best known for his studies of reflex behavior. Pavlov may not have loved the communist party but it didn't stop them from using his work.  The Soviets were kind enough to allow the doctor to continue his work, which the party no doubt used to the fullest of their abilities to meet their agenda.

I don't believe this conditioning process was unheard of before his time.  Patriotic love, love for the Monarchy or Emporer or even a Diety have all conditioned us to respond socially correct, even politically correct (which is also a Soviet phrase).

What Pavlov may have done was refine the technique to demonstrate the conditioning process.  The famous bell.  What our Russian friend did was open discovery to the multifaceted mind conditioning structures that have been used ad-nauseum here in the west by the marketing capitalists to get us to eat, drink, or go on vacations.  

Feminists work with the same technique on an expanded level. Its irrelevent to us for the purpose of pointing out Pavlov's techniques as to wether feminism is a product of marxism or soviet mind conditioning the purpose is to expose it for what it is.  

Feminism is an ideology, and like all ideologies they are implanted.  By use of the senses, and in this case perhaps all 6(sic) of them.    Like a conditioned herd of not cows but rather political thugs ready to jump on our every move as soon as they hear that bell ring.

The "bell" or trigger mechinism comes in many forms.  When we hear the words "sexism", "gender", "rape", "domestic violence", and "wage gap".  The list is growing daily and will include other forms such as "sexualization" which briefly is gender role playing.  An accusation of "sexualization" can consist of a father hugging his daughter.  This arguement alone has executed a father from his daughters into "state" care and foster homes.  So the trigger mechinisms are of site, sound, touch, and intiuition.  As, women are constantly reminded to rely on their intuition.  Conveinantly however their "intuition" is bombarded with constant images of propaganda of how evil and violent men are.  Their minds are conditioned so as to see 'sexism' where 'sexism' may not exist.  That the social engineering of ending percieved 'sexism' may not be such a good idea to our hardwired bodies.  Imagine an Orwellian nightmere that we refuse to waken from, where the elite are the only ones who profit from such deconstructions.

Most every intelligence or counter-intelligence agencies understand Pavlov's techniques resolutely.   There are many books out there in the mold that discuss " Mind Conditioning Tactics", "Brainwashing".   Nobody assumes that it has happened to them, and nobody assumes that it is happening on a large mass scale.  We can look to the Universities of our day to see mass scale propaganda.  Or one could read Plato's Republic on the conditioning of such a state.  Where biased and one sided information and censorship is greatness but the truth is not.  Where men like Aristotle are tyrannical and considered terrorists.


George Orwell wrote 1984 in 1948 as a vile criticism of Stalin's politics.  While most of the english publishers were bashing the Nazi's at the time in Orwell's earlier years of journalism, nobody dug into Stalin's abuses of power.  It is believed 30 million people died at the hands of Stalin.  Dissenters were taken off and never seen again.  No trials, no rights, nothing.  The state of daily life was one that anyone could accuse you of a crime of dissention at any moment, at any time.

Feminists like Marxists or communists have one thing in common and that is their target enemy.  The family.  After the fall of Communism, Fascism and Nazism we all just assumed that they crawled under some rock somewhere and died out as if in the bunker with Hitler. We were wrong, all it did was change faces and mutate into another form and bided its time.  It simply uses gender to meet its ends in its unsung patriotic love.  

We always assumed that when Fascism returned it would look like a dominant young man wearing a soldier suit.  We never expected that it would look like a young woman working for some social agency as a volunteer.  And this in lies where the "Trigger mechinism" is inserted like a social bomb waiting to go off.

Almost any social agency there is in regards to women and violence is probably a bastion of marxist propaganda.  Erin Pizzey famed social worker continually advocates to this day of how her efforts to get the first women's shelter federally funded was hi-jacked by anti-male communists looking solely to advance their agenda.  Women in a fragile or enraged state would end up at these shelters looking for help and getting marxist indoctrination instead.  

Most anyone knows that it is very difficult to get inside these secluded and closed off shelters to see what really goes on inside.   Videos and pamplets are readily available to anyone who enters.  Statistics opon statistics of gender definable definitions are marked.  Videos of women being abused violently with no where to go, no one to rely on or depend on accept for these nice women at the shelter.  Typically no men are ever allowed near a shelter and in this day and age its not even question, its almost a misnomer.  Well I question it and I urge you to do the same.  It is in these shelters were the implantation of the trigger mechinism was most cultered and developed into the victim ideology it is today.  Blanket statements, statistics, manufactured images , books and therapy sessions all designed for the same outcome.  A modelled feminist ready to respond like seething animals at the first hint of descrimination or violence against women.

As time goes on events like the "White Ribbon" project have taken this to mainstream media.  The 'Take Back The Night', gets women out into the rallies which in reality are "hate fests".  They point out an evil oppressor from a target group, they show his face and spout how many women are victimized that year or murdered by their male partners.   You can always see words like "outrage" "where's the justice", or even in its own right 'Take Back The Night', that imply's and instigates.  Wearing white ribbons in a patriotic like frenzy.  Like Nazi soldiers self identifying themselves, knowing full well who the "vermin" are.   Men are asked to write letters of confessions and promises never to commit violence against a woman again.  Women are not asked to do the same.    

All these things are installed, anger, hatred, indentity, malice, revenge activism.  Rarely are men seen as victims if ever.  Women are always helpless and are by gender default and no other reason not guilty.  This is constantly pounded into them with pamplets, lectures, videos, and other manufactured images that tailor how women should react in almost every situation.  Virtually replacing the individual woman's identity for the herd movement.  Women are displayed with images of extreme drama.  Like watching Clock Work Orange with the rogue being institutionalized and socially engineered.  Women see a woman respond in fear, they become like them, or believe that it is the reality of  how things happen.  

Women (and men), like sheep ran to make laws to protect women or rather punish men for domestic violence all the while seeing images that prompted women to provoke violence or to batter men as a form of "empowerment". Now that women have been conditioned to commit violence even more they will end up in jail even more.  This is why there is always the upset in the balance of images in the media.  It frankly is a divide and conquer scheme.  Rile women up against men, coax them to make more "totalitarian" laws to falsely protect women , entrench the laws using men then finally turn the laws against women aswell thereby subjugating the whole of society.

Schools are not much different anymore.  Telling women or rather young girls that marriage is entrapement, that children are a burden.  These little tidbits of information are subtly inserted into course outlines.  Even in many cases where feminists are quotes as saying "Feminists cringe your teeth", meaning to see red or anger, become riled.  To respond with anger , hate, malice.  If men are worried about 'fatherhood' being destroyed, these feminists are well on their way to destroying motherhood but convincing women it is in their best interest to accept such a thing.  Women's Studies Courses are also a key cultivator that concentrate on how women are sexually objectified and its all men's fault.  This one sided anthropology class serves only propaganda so long as it only serves one side of the story.

In Stalinist Russia, population control was always a factor.  And since it takes massive amounts of propaganda to ensure such a society the state will do whatever it can to grab ones children at even earlier ages than before.  Specifically to insert marxist dogma. With women, the feminist party has been able to convince them that abortion was in their 'best' interest.  They are now currently convincing women that daycare for children is also in their best interest.  Many women accept this.  The feminist party has succesffully exicuted men out of the lives of their children on a large massive scale, using propaganda and biased one sided research that all to many politicians were ready to jump on the band wagon for.  Now, this conditioning process or 'trigger mechinism' can be inserted into the very young, very easily and women have been convinced this is the best thing for the child.

As women work in the world it all but makes sence that we have more government "help" to make things easier.  While women are convinced they are fighting for their rights of equality they are sacrificing the freedoms of generations to come, who will no doubt be set in subjugation to the state.  

Women were a good choice for this movement as they did not work and they were already volunteering their services for the community in many ways on a large scale.  Giving largely to the church their time and efforts, raising their children and having not so much "free time" as unaccountable time.  Unlike men who were committed to jobs and the responsibility of bringing home money.  Just as marxists had to destroy the family unit in Russia, it had to destroy the family unit in the west.  They appealed to women with "feminism". Women were told they were the "subclass".  That their positions in life should be reflected opon.  In every single way the feminist party tried to anger women.  From wage disparities, to jobs, to the burden of pregnancy.  Promising freedom , liberation and "equality". Constantly ringing those bells.

Feminism eventually urged women to attack the church for not allowing women into the cardinal positions.  Though a true and valid point, this isn't about the good of women, but rather what women possesed that the feminist party could use in this area and that is free and cheap labour.  Women were and are being recruited into social services volunteering to fight for "equality", their real function is to become political thugs and regurgitate political propaganda, stamp their feet, censor truths and re-engineer society.  Ironically unbeknowst to them.   One of the biggest reasons feminism despises Christianity is because of its fundemental belief in "forgiveness".  Victim Feminism would shut down completely if the concept of "forgiveness" got out of hand.  It in fact would destroy the trigger mechinism of feminism completely.


As an individualist or even a libertarian minded man I have no problem with a woman or anyone questioning their lot in life, this is not the issue.  All the freedom, liberation and equality did not go to women it went instead to the state.  Women on their own really don't have much of a say and any women or women's groups that run contrary to this agenda do not get a voice.  Remarkably most of the successful women in their own rights are not recognized by feminists unless they meet the specific guidelines of the feminist party agenda.  Making it a totalitarian movement.


Nothing hates women more than feminism does, feminism hates exactly what women are, it hates what men are it just hates and hates.  Feminism hates motherhood, it hates children it is exploitative and it is corrupt.  However feminism is not a birthgroup it is an ideology, it is an ideology created fundementally out of Pavlov's conditioning practises used to terrorise women, turn them into political thugs that are suspicious and reportive to the state.  It denies women their nature and enslaves them into an unconcious state and divides them against men in oder to conquer them to subjugate them.  To feminism women are nothing but a vehicle to an end.  Feminism will ride the backs of women until it meets its goal, than it will shoot women to the ground and leave them to die.

It is believed that about 50% of men are out of their children's lives, this will not stop here and , it will move on to women until both men and women are 100% out of the lives of their children.  All in the name of "progess" and "family law".  Certianly double speak language if I ever saw it.

As men, we can not blame women for this mess.  It is pointless to blame ourselves, the only reason it happend is because we set out to protect our daughters and sisters, something that was inbedded in most of us being born men.  As I have pointed out, forgiveness, kindness and understanding is Feminism's greatest threat.  The truth in research is whats needed.  Love is what will disarm the "trigger mechinism" of feminism.
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ~ Mark Twain

Amber

he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Conspiracy Theory

I forgot to mentioned how this conditioned mass ie "feminists", can be used by almost any group.

Either capitalists, law enforcement, socialists etc....

All one needs to learn to do is properly ring the bell.    :wink:
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ~ Mark Twain

Conspiracy Theory

As women are told that putting children into day care is good for them, it, simaltaneously is good for the state.

As are many and well probably all things related to feminism.  All these issues somehow are simaltaneously good for the state.  

What seems to be good for the state always ends up being good for the elite.

Lawyers tend to favour quite well with many of what feminism brings forward.  

One should be afraid , very afriad that what the state has to ask from them.  

When the state stands to profit tremendously from certain legislation.  A legislation that also simaltaneously evicts our individual rights, you can be guranteed that the ringing bells of feminsim won't be far behind in its pursuit.
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ~ Mark Twain

turmeric

this would be a good troll, if you werent serious.

the only thing keeping families together these days is in fact feminism.

capitalism is one of the only true enemies the family has left.

Conspiracy Theory

"the only thing keeping families together these days is in fact feminism. "


Single mothers are not a family.
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ~ Mark Twain

Amber

he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Amber

By the way, Dan, don't let W. McElroy see this.  She might rip your idea off and pass it off as her own in a column again.  :roll:
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Conspiracy Theory

"Like Dan said, Pavlov's feminists. A conditioned response to an unnatural stimulus. When one questions the wage gap, it shouldn't be seen as some right wing conspiracy meant to keep women down, but that is what it is seen as. It should be seen as just honest fact. But they want you to hear the 'bell' and start to salivate, like Pavlov's dog, or rather - like the little political thugs they've turned into. "


Which is why feminists mostly just shut down and walk the other way when confronted with "dabate".  

They have been fundementally conditioned to reject repulsively and reflexively anything that contradicts the put forth agenda.  Therefore, not only are they trained to tell the lie, but trained to not hear the truth.
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ~ Mark Twain

Conspiracy Theory

to add another comment.

I was remembering my sociology prof who in every class brought up some marxist comment.

Instigating gender warfare.  For example he would bring up the fact that women always did most of the housework and most of the dishes etc.... and that things were still basically that way.  

Why he did this and what meaning it had in concerns to the class is unknown.  He did this a lot and my guess is exactly because of Pavlov's reflex research in regards to marxist classwarfare techniques.  

Purposefully instigating and antagonizing.  Granted the issue may be true or not, but the other side of the story never met the surface in any of his comments geared at sexism.

On the same note, this professor runs seminars and courses called "Women and Violence" etc... and works as a mediator for the government as well as an advisor as to police and judges as to wether an accused is released.

He is extremely biased and fits the bill of this marxist fantazy and class warfare.  I will release his name and course outlines etc...after I get my last course completed from him.

Than I will write him a nasty letter, actually I will just send him my final version of Pavlov's Soviet Feminist's.

:elephant:
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ~ Mark Twain

URnotmeRU

Wendy isn't stealing Dans anything. :roll:
nd the time will come when you'll see we're all one and life flows on, within you and without you. - George Harrison

Conspiracy Theory

I also remember another issue my sociologist prof kept bringing up.

It was the fact that there were no laws in place to stop men from whistleing at women on the street.  So cat calls, or waves hello, or something along those lines.  It was the way in which he tried to present it.  It clearly riled up the women in the class.  Many were divided.  I even remember experimenting with one of the most ardent undeclared feminists in the class.  A highschool teacher of about 27.  She talked the talk but was easily influenced by my charm.

There were other women more mature of age in the class.  One in perticular that it was all bizarr.  She was happily married living in a rural area.  Meaning socialism had not reached her yet.  Though the Liberals have a big drive at spreading these domestic violence shelters <cough> propaganda factories to the furthest reaches of ontario, where coincidently the strongest proclomations of conservative valuse preside.

What is my Prof's longterm goal????  Perhaps to instigate homosexuality?  As one outcome would be that if men were imprisoned for hitting on women it would certianly deterr from that.

Or perhaps my little socialist professor was actually an industrialist afterall?   As I have pointed out he makes good money from women and voilence and the legal proffesion, it may appear that he is trying to expand his feild and create victims and criminals where there were none before.
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ~ Mark Twain

Conspiracy Theory

There is one thing I find intersting.  Perhaps its more along the line of feminists, or just liberals at large.

But feminism seems to abide by the rules of all the "sins" there are.

Feminism presses "envy".  It utilizes "greed", it utilizes "slander", "murder", "sloth", "murder" and "adultry".  

Without those things these socialist fucks couldn't demonize their target group.  Exactly like Nazism.  The Nazies instigated rampant envy of the jews.    Though sloth was not big amonst the germans as they had a lot of work ahead of them, sloth is promted to women by feminists and largely so is "slander".  In fact slander or false accusations are not even punishable.  Laws like paternity fraud are almost protected from conviction or charge by the state.  Coincidently the state makes huge money off paternity fraud.  Another similarity in the STATES interest versus Feminists'.  

Who here is really pulling the strings in the end?
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ~ Mark Twain

Luckynkl

Psssst... Conspiracy Theory, Nazis were men. ;)  Communinsm was a system created by men.  Hitler was a man, Stalin was a man, Marx was a man.   Come to think of it, just about all the fascists and assholes that ever lived were men.

I notice there are no women's names on your list...

So why are you projecting what men do and have done onto women?  Hmmm?  Because it seems to me, all you have proven is that men are total assholes, aren't to be trusted, and aren't fit to lead or govern.

But hey, I already knew that!

URnotmeRU

Hey!!!! It's LuckyKnuckles!!!!


Have you come to see me?? Did you miss me? I hear Truth is here now, did you come here to see him??


I wonder, with all the crap you spewed in that post, if you believe in the age old saying of " behind every man is a woman who leads him"?


LOL..Like the feminists aren't doing a good job playing "Hitler" themselves, and gee look, there are still WOMEN behind every feminist!!!! AHHHH THE IRONY OF IT ALL!!! :xyxwave:
nd the time will come when you'll see we're all one and life flows on, within you and without you. - George Harrison

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