Holy Crap, Innocence is Now a Defense in Paternity Fraud

[SouthernGuy]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,125579,00.html

On June 30, a California man being forced to pay child support for a child he had not fathered got his day in court when the Second District Court of Appeal of California overturned a paternity judgment against him.

Los Angeles County, which had imposed the judgment, knew that Manuel Navarro was not the father of the child in question because DNA testing had proved so. Yet under both federal and state child-support laws, the county was still able to demand Navarro pay child support.

The court's landmark decision in Navarro's favor may well become the controlling authority for contested paternity in California and a legal precedent nationwide.

Navarro's case is typical of the false paternity claims and child-support laws that prompt men's-rights activists to condemn the family-court system as being virulently unfair to men.

When an unwed mother applies for welfare in California, the Department of Child Support Services routinely requires her to name the father(s) of her children.

The information provided is often incomplete. Moreover, even though the mother signs a declaration under penalty of perjury, false declarations go unpunished.

One step in the right direction fellas. Paternity fraud, especially rampant against soldiers in our military, has always ways ticked me off. Now we just need to make sure these women are punished for seeking a free ride from innocent men.

SG

[Q]

It's a start.  It's now a defense in one county.

Just a few counties, 50 odd states and anfew hundred countries to go.

But it's a start.

[Bender]

Its a good sign that a major news outlet is carrying the story.  Keywords:  major news outlet.

[D]

Funny title thread.  "Innocence is now a defense".  Classic!  

[FEMINAZIHATEMARTYR]

From the article;

In an article entitled "Injustice by Default: How the effort to catch 'deadbeat dads' ruins innocent men's lives," journalist Matt Welch asked California DCSS Assistant Director Leora Gerhenzon what would happen if a woman had named "Matt Welch" — a white guy between 30 and 40 years old, who maybe lives in the Los Angeles area, as the father of her child.

Gerhenzon answered, "We run our search on him; if we come back with one Matt Welch who lives in L.A., whose birthday fits that 10-year range, and we have nobody else, we presume in general we have the person."

http://reason.com/0402/fe.mw.injustice.shtml

"I said, ‘What do I need to do? I’m not the father,’" he remembers. "And they were like, ‘OK, well this is what you do: You just call in every day, and then we’ll understand that you’re not it, because if you’re it, you’re not gonna call us every day.’"

Pierce did everything he was told over the next three weeks of phone tag, except for comprehending that the 30-day deadline for denying paternity in writing was etched in federal law, regardless of what he discussed with Contra Costa employees -- who he says never once told him the clock was ticking. "All they were doing was delaying me from doing what I needed to do," he says. "It’s a huge scam -- huge scam....They’re just counting the days. They’re like, ‘Sucker, sucker, sucker, sucker.’...And this is the government!"

Two months later, after the phone conversations had ended and he assumed he was off the hook, Pierce received notice that a "default judgment" had been entered against him, and that he owed $9,000 in child support. He was between dot-com jobs, and his next unemployment check was 25 percent smaller; the state of California had seized and diverted $100 toward his first payment. Suddenly, he was facing several years of automatic wage garnishment, and the shame of being forced to explain to prospective employers why the government considered him a deadbeat dad. "That’s when it hit me," he says. "I mean, it’s mostly my fault -- ‘Fill out the form, dumb-ass!’...But it’s so rigged against you, it’s ridiculous."

This situation isnt so much "Injustice by default" as it is "injustice by Design"!! The Continental Congress went to war for less than this. Apparently the feminazi scam to take over the bureaucracy has worked and marxists run key state functions. Social workers, District attorneys, Childrens services departments, Social service departments, all need to be indicted for fraud, conspiracy and civil and constitutional rights violations. Add the fact that legislators and executive branches have turned a blind eye and refused to challenge and resolve these crimes somewhat indicts the entire system. Obviously authoritarianism and the police state turned out to be the feminazi's primary goal in spite of their perpetual denials.

[Galt]

I don't know if the feminazis are really the problem - the problem is that they can get away with all of it because of Chivalrous Men.

I have actually run into men that would say to this guy (with an artificially deep voice): "You should support this weak woman".  His response that he ISN'T the father would be met with: "Quit making excuses and be a man and support her".  Or the like, LOL.

No, seriously, these types exist and with all the hatred of chivalry and the hatred of these types of men that feminists ostensibly show, they need it to push through their goals.  They need these people.

It's unbelievable to me that a case like this has to go way up in the system (with the associated cost) for a clear issue like this.

I'm starting to think that the enemy isn't really the feminazis - they are just yapping little chihuahas - it's the men who allow themselves to be used by them based on chivalry.  Like, really.

[Galt]

That's really why these things exist - men who are clearly not the father being forced by a court to pay tens of thousands of dollars to a woman, married men who clearly are not the father because the wife had an affair, men who are forced by courts (like in the case of the English football payer) to pay over their money to their ex-wives for the rest of their lives, with no apparent responsibility on her part for ANYTHING (not even having to comply with visitation ...).

[FP]

Damn, about bloody time! I remember reading that article on reason.com awhile back. Insane.

[FEMINAZIHATEMARTYR]

Galt- Your right that many other agencies are culpable in the grand scheme of things but the feminazi's were the catalyst. However I agree specifically in one capacity; the politicians and Judiciary helped them do it. The paternity scam along with so many other statutes and rulings clearly violate Due Process and the apathy (or sheer mental exhaustion resulting from this utterly complex system) of the nation in general isnt reacting against it enough to make a difference. We complain alot about it but factor in time and we're still stuck in the mess for years before anythings resolved.

[CaptDMO]

I don't know if the feminazis are really the problem - the problem is that they can get away with all of it because of Chivalrous Men.

I'm starting to think that the enemy isn't really the feminazis - they are just yapping little chihuahas - it's the men who allow themselves to be used by them based on chivalry.  Like, really.

Now wait just one second there. I happen to take umberage at the repeatedly offensive(to me) referances used here!

Chivalry, and Chivalrous are NOT the concepts suitable for the associations you make. While basicly agreeing with the concept, I assign those responsable the name of.......um......well..... I can't say here. The code of the gentleman prohibits.

[neonsamurai]

The Cap'n said:

Chivalry, and Chivalrous are NOT the concepts suitable for the associations you make.

I agree with CaptDMO, chivalry is about acting like a gentleman, not acting like a woman's lackey.

Case in point; a friend of mines dad always opens door for people, not just women, people. "After you" he'll say in his posh Bretonian accent, whether you're the queen or a cleaner. He's a gentleman.

One day a woman snaps at him as he opens the door for her, "women are perfectly capable of opening doors for themselves!!"

To which he replied:

"My dear lady, I didn't open the door because you're a woman, I opened it because I'm a gentleman."

[FEMINAZIHATEMARTYR]

My dear lady

He was too kind. I wouldve slammed the door on her.