Men's weakness

[Gabriel]

Our main weakness is sex. It is (a main reason) why guys jump from one foot to the other, change their behavior, for women. They have it and charge a price for it, that price is usually more than just dinner, but is also requiring guys to change their behavior and requiring guys to open themselves up so women can carefully plant their hooks into them.

I believe if men actually considered how women view them, or view men in general they would stop dancing.

Nearly all women I know assume that men want to have sex with them. They believe that men are so weak and have no ability to control the sex urges that they will do nearly anything for sex.

Women actually believe that men enjoy working so that they can sit at home and do nothing, enjoy working for them.  (The slaves enjoy being slaves and are better off as slaves, with our white civilizing influence). Women see men as slaves and with good reason. Almost daily I see idiotic guys acting stupid for women so it is no wonder. I am losing my pity for men. I am starting to believe they deserve what comes to them. \The men who are raised without father's by mother's who set them up for slavery are they only ones who hold any sympathy, but even they can break free.

Men need to sever the ties. Sex isn't that important, and try to see their actions from how a female sees it. Then they will realize that women don't appreciate them and use them.

[Galt]

Pretty much ... right.

Feminists, naturally, completely ignore this aspect.

[Double Jeopardy]

I do believe you are hitting on something here..keep going.

[LST]

You are 100% correct, this is what i have been saying here for centuries. :--( And now think of this: what is the solution to this ? None. If men and women live in a "civilization" then women will always get the upper hand because they have control of sex, and with it they control men's behaviour. And besides that they also have motherhood ! There is no way to make women play by the rules. Do you think that men will just magically wake up and change themselves ? Well even if that will happen it will only last a few generations or maybe just 1 generation. Genetical editing perhaps ? :--( Humans already have many faults, why must exploitive female sexuality and exploitable male sexuality be one of them. It only works in a simple little community where everyone knows each other personally and it simply doesn't have enough information pressure to generate the propaganda effect that large societies have. But in a huge society with professional jobs, and tv, and newspapers, and education system, and politics, and complicated laws, and marriage this turns into something monstrous and selfdestructive.

[alien]

Gabriel: you're dead right, mate! Interestingly, I tend to just look but not touch when it comes to women. Maybe it's just me - but I don't particularly find women sexy anymore. The wiring in my brain still drives me to look at the occasional beautiful female that walks by, but overall I tend to think at higher level. My thinking normally starts with "I wonder if she's a ball breaker?" escalating further with "Why bother?" and "Too risky" and "Why invest so much effort anyway?"

It seems for me at least, that sex has been overruled by the risks associated. I don't know if I'm the only bloke out there that thinks this way.

I can relate to what you are expressing.

Good thread. Please do continue exploring this concept.

Regards.

[The Gonzman]

Well, yes, it is our weakness, especially when it really isn't.

Whack with the clue by four, gents.  Women like sex as much as we do.  Hey - all these "skirt chasing cads" are getting it from somewhere, eh?

I've alwasy said, next time your wife/GF says something about men being "such babies" when they get told no, tell her you have a headache that night.  You will see such screeching and carrying on as you have never witnessed.

I first found this out in High School, when I had been up between studying, work, and playing football for 48 straight house.  Fell asleep on my girlfriend - the one always accusing me of being only interested in one thing.

JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY-SUS KEEE-RIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah - women generally don't have to work as hard to get laid if they are willing to relax their standards a little bit; but by the same token, they areunused to being turned down.

Food for thought.

[Awakened]

Gabriel: you're dead right, mate! Interestingly, I tend to just look but not touch when it comes to women. Maybe it's just me - but I don't particularly find women sexy anymore. The wiring in my brain still drives me to look at the occasional beautiful female that walks by, but overall I tend to think at higher level. My thinking normally starts with "I wonder if she's a ball breaker?" escalating further with "Why bother?" and "Too risky" and "Why invest so much effort anyway?"

It seems for me at least, that sex has been overruled by the risks associated. I don't know if I'm the only bloke out there that thinks this way.

Regards.

Funny you mention this. I was out with some co-workers at lunch yesturday, when this very attractive girl walks in. Of course the guys are checking her out & going on and on about how hot she is. It's times like this when I realize how different my attitude is from a year ago. My only comment was "Nah, too expensive".

May not be fair to her for me to make this kind of assumption. But based on my experience with the rules of the game it definatley feels like a legit one.

[Double Jeopardy]

The trouble with this thinking is when expressed on forums such as this and others you are often met with responses that "You are just like the feminists who label men". This is so far from the truth, yes, feminists do pidgeon hole men into a negative category, but this (feminism and poor poor women and how oppressed they are ) is a premise based on lie, deception and manipulation. Whenever I hear a feminist do this it isn't coming from the depths of experience, a broken will or heart, or frustration, it is usually from hatred and anger.

When I see a lovely woman, I think to myself, this is a beautiful creature, but sure as hell she probably someones pain in the ass. I don't like thinking this way, I sure wish I didn't need to. But so often than not this is more true than I would like it to be. Whenever I hear from the feminist camp or the fence riders who dally about between the camp of male hatred/ mal content and the camp of reality where being a man is met with a continuous re-definition of terms, of what a mysogynist I am, I know that person has an agenda, not a challenge or a battle to constantly wage to stop the madness. It IS the madness, and I approach them with like candor.

[scarbo]

Two memorable quotes passed on to me:

A sales rep of a supplier of equipment made in Italy told me over dinner what Italians say to one another as they see a gorgeous babe walking by on the arm of another man: "Glad she's not MY problem!"

And another friend of mine once warned me: "Who says women don't have power? They control half the money and all the pussy!"

[Double Jeopardy]

Two memorable quotes passed on to me:

A sales rep of a supplier of equipment made in Italy told me over dinner what Italians say to one another as they see a gorgeous babe walking by on the arm of another man: "Glad she's not MY problem!"

And another friend of mine once warned me: "Who says women don't have power? They control half the money and all the pussy!"

Very wise men they are, for sure. :wink:

[alien]

Men need to sever the ties. Sex isn't that important, and try to see their actions from how a female sees it. Then they will realise that women don't appreciate them and use them.

It's well and truly time for men to raise their standards. Why sleep with just any double-X that happens to have a pulse? You take a typical Friday/Saturday night snapshot and you'll see blokes on the prowl - like dogs trying to please their masters. Here's my leash - pull as hard as you want! Anything for the screw. WTF? I notice it more now than ever before, and I just wish these fools could see how they really come across. As gabriel's post suggests above.

It's interesting that other blokes are seeing through the female form for what may lay beneath. I can't see any harm in extending the qualities that a woman should posses in order to be considered good enough, especially when we consider the filter that many women use when sizing up men. The Status, Power and money filter.

Regards

[alien]

I believe men actually have an excellent radar for detecting the good women (loyal/trustworthy/wife) from the bad women (goddess/manipulator/gold digger) but unfortunately remains inactive because of our chivalrous and trusting attitudes towards women; probably instilled by out mothers (just guessing). The radar's in full swing well and truly after being screwed over and it's all too late. We need fathers to teach their sons the rules about women and enable their radar's scope from an early age.

This probably sounds stupid but what the hell.

Regards

[LST]

I don't think that it is about "radars", if you have a selfish materialistic woman that takes you for granted and makes "rules" for you, then this is pretty obvious then nothing good will come out of her. Males are just brainwashed to put up with any abuse from females and act like morons and humiliate themselves in order to get sex. This crap has its roots in the chivalrous customs where a woman could slap a man for no reason or insult him and he couldn't retaliate. For example if a man insulted another man then he could invite him to a duel, but he couldn't invite a woman to a duel ! Same with this bitchy princess/goddess attitude, it has it roots in these old days... men kept dolling up women and salivating over them and being "romantical" and this is what they get. They wanted to create a cold-hearted inhuman goddess that demands sacrifice for themselves and they have done it. Stand back in awe and observe !

[Double Jeopardy]

I don't think that it is about "radars", if you have a selfish materialistic woman that takes you for granted and makes "rules" for you, then this is pretty obvious then nothing good will come out of her. Males are just brainwashed to put up with any abuse from females and act like morons and humiliate themselves in order to get sex. This crap has its roots in the chivalrous customs where a woman could slap a man for no reason or insult him and he couldn't retaliate. For example if a man insulted another man then he could invite him to a duel, but he couldn't invite a woman to a duel ! Same with this bitchy princess/goddess attitude, it has it roots in these old days... men kept dolling up women and salivating over them and being "romantical" and this is what they get. They wanted to create a cold-hearted inhuman goddess that demands sacrifice for themselves and they have done it. Stand back in awe and observe !

This is true, I had a woman once that I treated like a goddess, I used to enjoy buying pretty outfits for her, jewelry etc. Not that I wanted to "Buy" her, per se, but I enjoyed making her happy, seeing her beauty when she would light up in the outfits when I took her out.

That woman simply fucked me over to put it point blank, all the time and effort I put into our relationship trying to make her happy, and feel like the special lady I thought her to be went into dolling her up for the other guys (or should I say GUY) to enjoy.

One thing I can promise you, I'll never fucking do that ever again, NEVER!

[dr e]

I think that saying "I am not going to be duped into being manipulated by a woman's attractiveness" is a pretty smart way of thinking. It differs like night and day from the feminist hatred of all men.  If the fems would say "Hey, I'm not going to let myself be manipulated by that man's wealth" that would be fine too.  Of course that is not what they say, they instead claim victimhood from all of the bad men.   :roll: