I don't have to give the 'other side' equal time on my website. You want your say, get your own website. Everybody has the right to express their opinions, just not on my dime. So you want to be nasty to me? Fine. I will not respond in kind to you.
I never said you had to. The point, which you seemed to have missed, is that from your writing and your posting on this site, demonstrate that you don't give a damn what anybody else thinks. That's perfectly fine. So is the flip side of that coin.
I suggest you check out assisted suicide.
Doesn't fit. We aren't talking about the terminally ill nor those living in tremendous pain daily. Futhermore, those people choose to take their own lives. Not have them ripped away to suit somebody else's fancy. Furthermore, suicide is a coward's path.
As opposed to the blatant lies of the pro-abortion groups?
Since when are scientific and medical facts considered to be blatant lies?
Oh Please! You can take any position in the whole wide world you want on any subject and use "science" and "medical facts" to back it up. People point at those two things as if they are paragons of truth and justice. Who did the science and why? How are they funded? If you don't believe that science is tied to industry and money you are sadly naive.
Especially when it comes to medicine.
Semantics. It is what it is. A human life.
I've already said that this is irrelevant to me.
As is your opinion, based on a callous disregard for human life, to me.
Yes, BQ made a choice. I'm sure that there is nobody else out there that made a bad decision early on in their life because they lacked the experience or got bad advice.
I've made bad choices. I don't blame others for them.
Nor do I. But culpability does exist for an entity when people make decisions based on the information that entity provides. This is why I am not allowed to advise in my occupation. It creates an Errors and Omissions exposure. The point was that we are fully capable of making bad decisions based on other's input. Especially when percieved as an authority.
I don't consider it relevant that the fetus dies in an abortion, either. The primary concern for the doctor is the treatment of his or her patient, and that patient is not the fetus. What happens to the fetus, to me, is not relevant to the belief that if a person does not want one in their body, they should have the right to remove it from their body.
Of course, I don't consider it murder, either. Refusing to let another person/thing use your body for survival is not murder.
What can I say? I'm stunned. That is just so inherently evil. But as you say, it is your belief, and irrelevant to me.
By extention... Let's withdraw any and all military and finacial support from every non-american group in the world. Deport all foreigners. Terminate every form of welfare to boot. The suffering and death of anybody outside of America is not the Goverment's concern. America is their primary concern. Letting them die by failing to take action is not murder.
You can't outlaw it because the ammendment says goverment shall make no law establishing a religion or prohibiting the free practice thereof.
The analogy doesn't fit, because in the case of religious sacrifice of human beings, those being sacrificed are not in any way usurping your bodily autonomy.
I believe it does fit. The point is that I am able to end the "bodily autonomy" of another under the guise of my rights and freedoms.
Abstain or protect. You are under obligation to do what a prudent person should do. And don't tell me you're not.
Already do use birth control, thanks. In the unlikely event that it fails, I will abort.
Great. Happy to hear it.
In the unlikely event that it fails, it is still murder.
Yes, God forbid I should want a chance at life and not be snuffed out by a hired thug for a selfish woman.
You don't have the right to use her body to sustain your life. She can allow you to, if she wishes, but you can't do it against her will.
I believe you don't have the right to murder another person just because you had an "oops" which will significantly put a strain on you.
The only problem is, your side wants to enforce your opinion on unborn, unprotected, unrepresented children by weight of law, whereas I believe everybody should be given equal protection.
And in order to protect the non-sentient, you tread upon the rights of those who are sentient, who are citizens, who are persons. That's not up to you.
Sentience. Another pathetic attempt at semantics to say that an unborn child isn't really a child at all.
Fine. The sentient person is without excuse. Their choice, their action, their responsibilty. The non-sentient is without blame.
If it is against your morals, then don't have sex, get a tubal ligation, vasectomy, or protect yourself.
You assume I don't use protection? Why?
No. I don't assume anything. Don't care what you do.
I was trying to make the point that abortion should not be considered a form of birth control. Unfortunately it is.
Of course it's really convenient for you to want it to be legal so that you can continue to behave irresponsibly and not face the repurcussion of such actions.
Do you have any evidence at all that I behave irresponsibly? If so, please present it.
(Sigh) It isn't always about you. You were accusing BQ of trying to have it both ways. You implied she is trying to have it both ways rather than acknowleding that she has has a change of heart and mind. I believe that's allowed. If not, lets shoot Kerry in the head now. :twisted:
The parody of your words was meant prompt an examination of what is and is not responsible behaviour and the justification people use to defend their position and to detract from others. With that being said, I'll let the statement stand as it is.
Again, should the lawyers ever get ahold of a case like this, there is a really good chance that they would take you to the cleaners.
They can't.
HAAAAA. HAH. HAAAAAA
Famous last words. I believe what you mean to say is "They shouldn't be able to." That's what our companies say when they're settling for millions of dollars. Naive. You do realize you are in a forum full of men who many have been destroyed by lawyers who "Can't do that"?
You've obviously made your own choices for birth control, or lack thereof, and that is your right to do so. My right, is to make choices for myself. You don't get to make your choices, and then mine too.
Exactly. You're right. Nobody should make their choices and then make choices for someone else. Including the unborn.
