Anarcho-Psychism

[typhonblue]

Woah dude, this must be a pretty huge reply. 8--)

Well, no one said you ask easy questions.

[daksdaddy]

typhonblue



Joined: 28 May 2004
Posts: 349
Location: Canada

The Biscuit Queen



Joined: 05 Oct 2004
Posts: 73

You Two should get a room of your own.

Both have good points, however, this is not a forum for personal attacks.

Ah, Ah ,ah.
There have been a few: The unfortunate reality is; your discussions have  taken over and even subdued other postings.

Dr Evil, not my place really, But; C'Mon.   There are rules. Yes?

[daksdaddy]

5. People can fight with each other all they want. As long as they focus on attacking each others ideas then all is good. If people start attacking the individual then then we have a problem.

[dr e]

Daksdaddy if you have a concern about a particular post or comment feel free to talk about it here.  My reading of this thread so far is that there has been some sniping back and forth but it doesn't seem like full personal attacks.  I'd be open to hearing your views.

[The Biscuit Queen]

If other people would like me to stop posting, I will. I have not been insulting, or attacking. I have been careful not to attack typhon, but debate her idea. Obviously, that is not what some people here want. I could have said what I really think about her personally,  but that would be attacking her personally. So I had been very careful to shred her position, not her character. Daks, where were you when I was refered to as "loose" "getting around" etc. Those were personal comments, which did not have place in the debate. That didn't bother you?

My husband is so bored with Typhon he won't even read her posts.  People like her is the reason he left here two years ago, and why you don't see him posting much now.  I guess in order to protect all the hesitant posters I am subduing, I will do the same. I thought I was done with these people when I stopped living on the commune.  :roll:

[Double Jeopardy]

If other people would like me to stop posting, I will. I have not been insulting, or attacking. I have been careful not to attack typhon, but debate her idea. Obviously, that is not what some people here want. I could have said what I really think about her personally,  but that would be attacking her personally. So I had been very careful to shred her position, not her character. Daks, where were you when I was refered to as "loose" "getting around" etc. Those were personal comments, which did not have place in the debate. That didn't bother you?

My husband is so bored with Typhon he won't even read her posts.  People like her is the reason he left here two years ago, and why you don't see him posting much now.  I guess in order to protect all the hesitant posters I am subduing, I will do the same. I thought I was done with these people when I stopped living on the commune.  :roll:

Your husband is a member here? Who is he? I don't think you have misbehaved BQ, you have taken a few shots on the chin and came back with sound arguments stating your position rather than attack the person, IMHO. I would like to see you stay but that is entirely up to you. Whenever a person resorts to personal slams it most often denounces their ability to make a sound argument or their intent to be civil and just troll. You have been quite patient. If you asked me I would try to avoid those who attack you, not entirely, just let their attacks lay where they are because everyone who reads the threads see them and most of the time they are called on it by other members.

[The Biscuit Queen]

I will stay, (sorry Gonzo :wink: ) I just am going to give Typhon a wide berth. Thank you DJ, I truly was wondering if I was the only one who saw this.

I was thinking of writing an article on how women tend to go for the personal jugular in ways that men tend not to. Especially when it comes to sexuality, women are far more critical of other women than men are, and are far more likely to say something, but we also are more likely to do so in ways that tend to slide under men's radar.

Dave K, my husband, has thought that this is because boys 'debate' openly, because they tend to do more teamwork in both work and play, and must learn to disagree then work out their differences so that the group functions. Girls tend to sit and talk one on one, which does not make for open debate, but polarizes into best friends or worst enemies, with no debate  or middle ground between. Girls tend to focus on personal matters, which also makes debate difficult.  

Yes, this is making generalizations, but I don't think that they are that off. I love debate, have practiced on Dave for 12 years, and he has taught me how to keep out the personal comments, the obvious debate mistakes, like straw man, ad hominum(personal attacks) and red herring, and taught me not to take things personally and let defensiveness seep into the debate. I tend to argue more like a man now. Dave is a killer debater, and I take great pride in the fact I can out manuever him on a respectable number of debates.I wouldn't go 50/50, but I am getting there. If course it was more fun when we didn't agree on so many things .

As I said, I will just avoid Typhon, she can do what she pleases, and we will all live happily ever after.

[Galt]

<< ... like straw man, ad hominum(personal attacks) and red herring ...>>

Those are my favorite techniques when I debate.  I also use "appeal to authority" and cite false statistics.  By the time they've figured out that one statistic is false, I've moved on to several others.  Throwing things against the wall and seeing if they stick is also useful.

[Galt]

People have to ultimately remember that what they are seeing is electrons hitting little dots on their computer screen.  These dots form patterns, but not patterns that can get you upset like a person breaking into your house with a gun.

[Double Jeopardy]

<< ... like straw man, ad hominum(personal attacks) and red herring ...>>

Those are my favorite techniques when I debate.  I also use "appeal to authority" and cite false statistics.  By the time they've figured out that one statistic is false, I've moved on to several others.  Throwing things against the wall and seeing if they stick is also useful.

That in most forums is called trolling, isn't it?

[Galt]

<<That in most forums is called trolling, isn't it?>>

Sure.  That's what I used to do on the old Ms. Boards.

But in this case, it's more likely a bad joke that didn't come across.

[Double Jeopardy]

<<That in most forums is called trolling, isn't it?>>

Sure.  That's what I used to do on the old Ms. Boards.

But in this case, it's more likely a bad joke that didn't come across.

[Dave K]

<<That in most forums is called trolling, isn't it?>>

Sure.  That's what I used to do on the old Ms. Boards.

But in this case, it's more likely a bad joke that didn't come across.

I got it.  

[Dave K]

Dave K, my husband, has thought that this is because boys 'debate' openly, because they tend to do more teamwork in both work and play, and must learn to disagree then work out their differences so that the group functions...

  To clarify, I don't normally get sucked into "hot but pointless" discussions (most often abortion, religion and poliitics), as Jen said, I don't find them that appealing anymore.  Whenever I run accross one of those 'debates' I envision a bunch of people in a room... standing pointed in random directions, hands firmly clamped over their ears and screaming their opinion at the top of their lungs.  Even worse, the gulf between the groups is so large that there's no common ground to even build an argument on... it's like they're all screaming in different languages.  Just doesn't seem that productive to me.  As I said in a different thread, these days if I do participate it's more for entertainment value, but even that isn't effective because after a while you find that you've seen it all.

I think part of my apathy is because I've been on the internet just about from the beginning, and had a broadband connection for most of that time (I was on the Alpha team for the second Cable Modem rollout in the world, about 10 years ago now) , so I've long since burned out on the trolling, baiting and flaming game.  Jen however is a relative noob to the forum thing (she never expressed much interest until the last year or two)... so she pulls me in on occasion.  

[dr e]

If other people would like me to stop posting, I will. I have not been insulting, or attacking. I have been careful not to attack typhon, but debate her idea. Obviously, that is not what some people here want. I could have said what I really think about her personally,  but that would be attacking her personally. So I had been very careful to shred her position, not her character. Daks, where were you when I was refered to as "loose" "getting around" etc. Those were personal comments, which did not have place in the debate. That didn't bother you?

That's a little odd that you would consider leaving the board because one poster points out that you and Typhon have been sniping at each other.  

I don't see the interchange between you two as being one sided.  I think you have both had your moments of being less than kind.  I just haven't seen any glaring personal attacks that I felt warranted a warning.