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Air Force Cadet Assaults 13-Year-Old Cheerleader
Air Force Cadet Sodomizes Girl in Wheelchair
Air Force Cadet Runs Porn Site From Academy Computer

These are just some of the headlines about the horrifying sexual violence being
committed by men at the U.S. Air Force Academy.
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RockyMountainMan

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The investigation reports also illustrate the Air Force Working Group's finding that just half of the 61 cases investigated at the academy since 1993 produced sufficient evidence to take action under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Contradicting versions of events were given by witnesses; alleged victims and assailants had engaged in prior consensual sexual activity; alcohol is a common factor, and several victims reported long periods of blackout. In some cases, victims later recanted.


http://www.military.com/NewsContent?file=FL_assault_062703

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That cadet also was among six who have been court-martialed since 1993. He was convicted and sentenced to 42 months in jail and dismissed from the service


There does seem to be cause for concern here, but the Academy seems to be handling it.  Overall it appears to be just more empire building by the DV industry.
Give me liberty or give me death.

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Tact is for those lacking sufficient wit for sarcasm.

turmeric

yeah. lets forget about all the rape victims and all that. lets focus on the 'real problem'. corrupt 'dv industry'. because after all, the pain of a few pople getting raped, what is that compared to a bunch of conservatives sitting in armchairs fuming over 'the dv industry'? think of all the horrible victims of the dv industry. certainly we must stop that before we stop rape, because it is more important and has caused more suffering!

URnotmeRU

Must be a weak moment for the poor fool, it's almost making sense. :lol:
nd the time will come when you'll see we're all one and life flows on, within you and without you. - George Harrison

dr e

LOL UR.

...Oh no, let's not forget about rape.  Let's only forget about the men who are raped!  Duh.
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

RockyMountainMan

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yeah. lets forget about all the rape victims and all that. lets focus on the 'real problem'. corrupt 'dv industry'. because after all, the pain of a few pople getting raped, what is that compared to a bunch of conservatives sitting in armchairs fuming over 'the dv industry'? think of all the horrible victims of the dv industry. certainly we must stop that before we stop rape, because it is more important and has caused more suffering!


Try to wrap your brain around the idea that both rape and false accusations are important.  And NO, the rape cause doesn't give a blank check to advocates to say whatever they want without criticism.  BTW, Don't you find it a little strange that a DV group is making an issue of a military academy?  A little outside the "family violence" cause isn't it?

I suppose "conservatives" are anyone who isn't you.
Give me liberty or give me death.

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URnotmeRU

Quote from: "RockyMountainMan"


I suppose "conservatives" are anyone who isn't you!!

Uh huh.., WELL........it shares Ambers persecution complex.
nd the time will come when you'll see we're all one and life flows on, within you and without you. - George Harrison

FEMINAZIHATEMARTYR

Of course thats it! Lets suspend all Due Process to for the Feminazi Enabling Act to catch those legions of evil American Male rapists!! Good idea man!! Good Idea!! Bishop can go man!! Hes the only one qualified to remote pilot the ship anyway! Just like the Feminazi Geheimes Bund. We should just hand over the coop to the Dragon and be done with it! In fact because of their Cosmic enlightenment lets just fall to our knees and begin chanting, "We Love Big Sister, We Love Big Sister, We Love Big Sister!! She is the Alpha and Omega, Our Bomb!!!" This should be all mens mantra on a minutely basis. Thus shall we truly find spiritual enlightenment! Chaaaaaaaaarrrrggee!!!!! :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:
What good fortune for government that people do not think."
                         Adolph Hitler

"Where madness rules the absurd is not far away."

We must not make the mistake of thinking that all those who eat the bread of dictatorship are evil from the first; but they must necessarily become evil....The curse of a system of terror is that there is no turning back; neither in the large realm of policies nor the 'smaller' realm of everyday human relationships is it possible for men to retrace their steps."
- Dr. Hans Bernd Gisevius
(1904-1974)

LSBeene

I have sympathy for REAL rape victims/survivors.  I do.  I was falsely accused of rape.  Twice.  This may raise a few eyebrows, but I am not really interested.  Even with THAT having had happend (twice) I do not have a callous heart for women who are violated by some cretin boy in man's body.  The problem is, in this gender divided landscape, is that "sexual assault" has become what it was never meant to be.  Regret, attention, revenge are used in self-justification and moral reletivism to tell women that she was sexually assualted even when she was not.  I often just mirror what the victim says happened and change 'man' and 'woman' and the reply I get from Gender Feminists is that that is "different".  Also, many men are raped.  So are lesbians.  And many men are taken advantage of when drunk or not in the mood, but no Gender Feminist seems much interested.  Also,  men who are put into prison are raped and raped repeatedly.  Yet the Gender Feminists don't seem to have much energy left over for them.  Ok, so what is my point?  Gender Feminist are not the least interested in rape victims.  Proof you say?  Outstandling, would LOVE to provide some.  If all these classes of rape victims listed above ARE rape victims, then why are they not brought up?  Because it would not further their Anti-male agenda.  Ever, and I mean even ONCE hear about lesbian "rape epidemic" on such campus' as Wellesley or Smith?  Rape must happen there, but not a word.  Also, since they keep putting out false statistics then, by definition they are liars.
   Now, all this stuff being said, why are the Gender Fems going after the AF Academy and IS there a "rape epidemic".  
    Ok, first, why the AF Academy: a) because it is mostly a male population.   b) the Gender Fems want to intrude on and socially reorganize the military   c) its high profile and gives them press.  I am IN the military.  Let me tell you, the Academies are tough places and students in training environments will whine about anything.  Trust me, they do.  And if you are part of a "minority" its the only time you can pull out a "time out" card and get away with whining.  The social engineering of the military has turned it into the freaking Armored Stroller Battalion.  But that, it and of itself, deserves its' own thread.
   Now, is there a "rape epidemic" at the AF academy.  If you look at the Gender Feminists OWN NUMBERS the AFA is pretty low on rape "crisis" nodes.  But, since we know those hate-mongers lie, lets look at it.  I think even ONE ONE ONE rape is wrong.  Even after being falsely accused that is where I stand.  Period.  All the Academies have an atmosphere of intimidation and silencing.  I have seen it in the regular military.  And if you look at what happens in regular training environments at Basic Training units its really weird.  I will get some flak for saying this, but if you E-mail me, I will write a long explanation and prove it.  I mean this sincerely.  Women in initial training environments (not field environments)   are like teenage boys in heat.  But they are told that ANY sex makes them a victim.  Its weird to watch.  I also remember TAILHOOK where years later many of the women recanted their stories and/or were never punished for PARTICIPATING in sexual romps.
   Just give this stuff some thoughts.
Peace
   Steven
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Asian Lover

Doesn't it strike you as odd that, with the so-called "epidemic" of sexual assaults at the Air Force Academy,  our nation's premier pilot training institution where only the best of the best are accepted, that only one courts-martial has been convened to date, even with its newly appointed female commandant?

The Fems would say this is because of coverups and the boys protecting their own.   THIS is rediculous beyond words.  The military is far more PC than civilian life simply because of its ability to rigidly enforce all forms of personal behavior.

Let me give you another reason so few cases have prospered, one that you will never read about.     Upon registration, all students sign statements of understanding that they are liable for re-imbursing the government for the education and training given if students fail to meet military physical and moral standards.   This can be as much as $120,000.    There is tremendous political pressure to bring in more female cadets, affirmative action style.   Many of these women are unable to meet the physical conditioning requirements needed to fly a $40 million aircraft into combat.

What better way to get the government to back off from its financial claim on you than to "cry rape?"     The possibility of a windfall from a civil suit exists as well.

For the people who believe all these sexual assault charges, I have an empty seat for you at my weekly poker game.   Bring lots of money, stupid.
 toast by expats in Asia:  "Here's to white women."   Followed by guffaws and another round of drinks.

NealGold

Hey Asian Lover,

Where DO people find the time to do their jobs anymore?

Since I'm trying to uphold my part of the national statistics, I beat up 5 women, molest 3 children, and rape 2 women a day.  Damn...what a pace...I have to SCHEDULE my crimes into 15-minute blocks so I can accomplish them all.  I'm even thinking of hiring a secretary -- after I physically abuse her -- to keep me on schedule.

WILL THE DV INDUSTRY PLEASE STOP INCREASING THE STATS?  THE PRESSURE OF KEEPING UP IS KILLING ME!
A man conscious of his strength, observes Nietzsche, need have no fear of women. It is only the man who finds himself utterly helpless in the face of feminine cajolery that must cry, "Get thee behind me, Satan!" and flee. The normal, healthy man...still keeps a level head. He is strong enough to weather the sexual storm. But the man who cannot do this, who experiences no normal reaction in the direction of guardedness and caution and reason, must either abandon himself utterly as a helpless slave to woman's instinct of race-preservation, and so become a bestial voluptuary, or avoid temptation altogether and so become a celibate." -- H.L. Mencken on Nietzsche's philosophy of women

christianj162000

Personally I like the 1 in 4 statistics that the feminazies use in lying about rape -

1 in 4 woman will be raped in their lifetime, they do not bother with any facts just an outright lie is enough for them (wimyn, womyn,wimmin are illogical)eg. 25% of all college students will be raped ?

They are well aware of the old nazi truism that " in order for a lie to be beleived it has to be as incorrect as possible", The latest rape figures that I have seen or heard were in the vacinty of .5 of a percent.

We know why feminists want to keep exaggerating these statistics as it keeps woman on-side and the victim status is ensured it also guarantees funding for their other rants and lies.

1 in 4 woman will be raped, let's calculate this out

World population 6 billion ( give or take 100 Million)
Half the population are woman, 3 billion. you work it out.

But it gets better,

98% of all woman have their bum fondled on the train on the way to work.
69% of all woman will be domestically violated during the super bowl.
87% of all woman will have to suffer sex withing the next year.
100% of all woman will have to endure unlimited government funding for the rest of their lives.

And the lunacy continues, if a lie is told often enough it will become the truth.
eininger
" Woman are non-logical, non-ethical".

NealGold

Evil wrote:

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...Oh no, let's not forget about rape. Let's only forget about the men who are raped! Duh.


Add to it this:  Let's only forget the men whose lives have been totally fucked forever by spurious charges from hyperventilating chicken littles.  I believe it's time actually to enforce a biblical law that makes it a sin to bear false witness.  I know it's called perjury, but where hyperventilating chicken littles are concerned, somehow the Judicial System gives them a pass.
A man conscious of his strength, observes Nietzsche, need have no fear of women. It is only the man who finds himself utterly helpless in the face of feminine cajolery that must cry, "Get thee behind me, Satan!" and flee. The normal, healthy man...still keeps a level head. He is strong enough to weather the sexual storm. But the man who cannot do this, who experiences no normal reaction in the direction of guardedness and caution and reason, must either abandon himself utterly as a helpless slave to woman's instinct of race-preservation, and so become a bestial voluptuary, or avoid temptation altogether and so become a celibate." -- H.L. Mencken on Nietzsche's philosophy of women

Daymar

Heh, I had a conversation with someone a few days ago about the law saying it's not consensual sex if the women is drunk. The person I was talking to said "men can take advantage of women when they're drunk. And men should realize maybe they shouldn't have sex with a drunk girl if they don't want to get in trouble." Oh, really? Well women can take advantage of men with false allegations as well. And when a man is drunk his inhibitions about having sex with a drunk girl are going to be negated just as much as the drunk woman's inhibitions about having sex are! Basically what the non-consent when drunk law means is that men are held responsible for their actions but women aren't. What a turn of events that is.

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