Another debate on another forum

Started by Assault, Dec 29, 2004, 03:22 PM

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Assault

Dec 29, 2004, 03:22 PM
On a mixed martial arts forum I frequent a video of a teen male slapping a willing female was posted. It was a stupid juvenile stunt by BOTH parties, but of course the male chivalry kicked into high gear.

Go here http://www.mma.tv/TUF/index.cfm?ac=ListMessages&PID=1&TID=533266&FID=2&p=46 to see me debate these guys, and lend a hand if you wish. :wink:
Feminism is the product of female selfishness, compounded by male chivalry.

- Peter Zohrab -

typhonblue

#1
Dec 29, 2004, 07:53 PM
I've signed up for mma. I figured it fit since I do jui-jitsu and stuff. However I won't be able to post for a few days apparently.

I don't know why they can overlook the girl's complicity. *She* was stupid enough to ask for an open palm strike, even stupider since she looks like she has about 70lbs of lean mass.

Know your limitations, or be rendered unconscious... in her case possibly an improvement on her mental facilities.

BTW, did anyone else catch the part where another guy says "yeah, hit her like you hit me." Where's the sympathy for the first *male* patsy in their wierd little expreiment?

The Gonzman

#2
Dec 29, 2004, 08:06 PM
Um - that's a stunt.  It's a nicely executed one, but it's a stunt nonetheless.

Watch it real close.  There are some chains being yanked.

I guarantee, if anyone gets hit open palmed enough to knock someone out, there are bruises, blood, and spitting teeth.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am the MEANEST son-of-a-bitch in the valley.

LSBeene

#3
Dec 29, 2004, 11:11 PM
Gonzo's right.

I, like "Assault", have been (tho long ago) for YEARS involved in martial arts.  (full disclosure I am not going to give my "pedigree", brag, or claim "all knowing" status)

I've been in MANY a "street fight".  Won most, but lost enough to not want to admit it.

If you KNOCK SOMEONE OUT it's a MAJOR injury that is NOTHING like what Hollywood exemplifies.  I have knocked a few people out, but almost always it was through a choke-hold or lyrynx (?sp) or sternum snap (loss of ability to breath at a time when they are worked up).  I have NEVER "punched/kicked" a guy to unconscienceness.  I have beaten their will to fight out of them, but that's not the discussion point.

If your head (and this depends on physiology) recieves enough kinetic energy to SNAP you from conscienceness then often, but not always(rare as truth from a feminazi), you are spitting up a lot of blood, lost some teeth, break a jaw bone and/or are also going to have received some neck/soft-tissue damage.

It's a SERIOUS trauma.  The human body is amazing in it's ability to deal/absorb damage.

But PHYSICS cannot be ignored.

Again, without bragging, I've been in a LOT of fights (lo those many years ago - thank God!) and I honestly won many many more than I lost.  Even when I won you are HURTING. (gave more damage than I received and still hurt like the DICKENS the next day - ouch - I am a little arthritic from my training days!)

Clear "total victory" Mortal Kombat shit is for kids and TV.

Steven
'Watch our backs at home, we'll guard the wall over here. You can sleep safe tonight, we'll guard the door."

Isaiah 6:8
"Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!"

typhonblue

#4
Dec 30, 2004, 12:14 AM
I don't know. I've been rendered unconscious by a blow to the head that left no mark.

Graboid

#5
Dec 30, 2004, 01:14 AM
I got hit by a car back in '96. It was dark and rainy - I crossed on a blind bend and saw a red Sierra come round the corner. It was only doing about 25mph at a guess but I'm told I went up on the bonnet and my head caused a small crack in the windshield. I vaguely remember coming round and there were a group of people there and an ambulance came about 2 minutes later.

It's weird because it seemed almost instantaneous to me - but it was a quiet road (a small crowd of about 15 people don't gather instantly) and ambulances don't arrive in two minutes, so I must have been out for several minutes. Thing is, I went to the hospital, had scans etc and it seemed I was perfectly OK, so I had a couple of asprin and buggered off home !!

I did have a lump on the back of my head and my hearing was weird for a few days afterwards. I think a sharp blow to the back of the head can paralyse you though if it happens in the right place - I think I was just lucky  :D . I think if you get hit by a force hard enough to knock you out in a fleshy part of the body, it's gonna cause some serious trauma, because it has to be a harder blow than a clean hit to the head due to the cushioning effect of the flesh.

Anyway, thanks for reading - I'm out  :P
I don't think I'll get married again. I'll just find a woman I don't like and give her a house." - Lewis Grizzard

Their slogan may as well be 'From each according to his ability, to each according to her gender" - Judge John Roberts

LSBeene

#6
Dec 30, 2004, 01:20 AM
Typhon: Really?!@!>!>!???

I guess that, again goes to anatomy and physiology and (immeasurable) "toughness" that in inherrent" in some

I can take a LOT of damage and keep going.

My worst: I lost 3 teeth, got 2 "maybe" concussions, damn near broke my jaw, damaged an eye, and really took a beating all around.  

I drank through a straw (as they had to sew together my whole (no shit) my WHOLE mouth from the inside out - the freaking dental tech damn near passed out watching this shit).  They found rubber and leather in my JAWLINE from where the one dude had kicked out my "grill" while his buddy held me horizontal to the ground.

All of this I (VERY hazy) remember.  I damn near beat the first guy hands down, but when it was apparent I was (despite being wasted - that's the day I learned it was time to stop drinking) winning his buddy pinned my arms and held me to the ground.

I passed out and came back ready to fight (but would have been out so long as to have been pulped).  

It's just not, by personal inference, but surely Typhon is being real as to her own self, hard for me to see taking so little damage and not continuing.

Granted, and I PLZ PLZ PLZ ask no one to think that my story was "a war story", but I'm just being straight: surprised and certainly willing to listen to another fine member of our forum who offers a different perspective.

Plz continue Typhon.

Steven
'Watch our backs at home, we'll guard the wall over here. You can sleep safe tonight, we'll guard the door."

Isaiah 6:8
"Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!"

The Gonzman

#7
Dec 30, 2004, 03:54 AM
It's not just the lack of injury, though.

His hand is cupped.

She's real loose, and it looks like she starts to roll with the punch just a split-second before it lands.

The angle she flies and falls at is wrong, too.

It's a sweet stunt.  But it's not real.  But one or both of them has a hell of a future in Hollywood.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the Shadow of death, I shall fear no evil, for I am the MEANEST son-of-a-bitch in the valley.

typhonblue

#8
Dec 30, 2004, 12:30 PM
It wasn't a small amount of damage. It was just the right kind. For some reason a hard object wrapped in something softer causes deeper and not immediately apparent damage. And I think the location of impact matters as well.

Does anyone else think the fact we're discussing this so much shows just how inured we are to violence against men?

Dr. Feelgood

#9
Dec 31, 2004, 02:28 AM
Quote from: "LSBeene"
Gonzo's right.

I, like "Assault", have been (tho long ago) for YEARS involved in martial arts.  (full disclosure I am not going to give my "pedigree", brag, or claim "all knowing" status)

I've been in MANY a "street fight".  Won most, but lost enough to not want to admit it.

If you KNOCK SOMEONE OUT it's a MAJOR injury that is NOTHING like what Hollywood exemplifies.  I have knocked a few people out, but almost always it was through a choke-hold or lyrynx (?sp) or sternum snap (loss of ability to breath at a time when they are worked up).  I have NEVER "punched/kicked" a guy to unconscienceness.  I have beaten their will to fight out of them, but that's not the discussion point.

If your head (and this depends on physiology) recieves enough kinetic energy to SNAP you from conscienceness then often, but not always(rare as truth from a feminazi), you are spitting up a lot of blood, lost some teeth, break a jaw bone and/or are also going to have received some neck/soft-tissue damage.

It's a SERIOUS trauma.  The human body is amazing in it's ability to deal/absorb damage.

But PHYSICS cannot be ignored.

Again, without bragging, I've been in a LOT of fights (lo those many years ago - thank God!) and I honestly won many many more than I lost.  Even when I won you are HURTING. (gave more damage than I received and still hurt like the DICKENS the next day - ouch - I am a little arthritic from my training days!)

Clear "total victory" Mortal Kombat shit is for kids and TV.

Steven


I have an off the cuff question for you, Beener, are you GDP at Ifeminist? Your posting style using alot of bolding, underlines and caps looks just like his. :scratchchin:

LSBeene

#10
Dec 31, 2004, 06:02 AM
Ummm .. no

I'm me pretty much everywhere.

I don't do the "multiple account" or whatever stuff.

I post as LSBeene everywhere I go on the 'Net.

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Ok, that's not true in ONE case: there are (actually it's been months since I've done it) a few hardline feminist boards that I use "made up" names and post as a chick to bounce ideas.

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But, that said ... no, bro .... I'm Steven all day come rain or shine.

Why?

Steven
'Watch our backs at home, we'll guard the wall over here. You can sleep safe tonight, we'll guard the door."

Isaiah 6:8
"Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!"

SouthernGuy

#11
Dec 31, 2004, 10:53 AM
As a society we're conditioned that kicking a man in the nuts is funny, yet even staging a jackass style "slap" is blasphemy.  Hmm...

SG

Dr. Feelgood

#12
Dec 31, 2004, 06:14 PM
Quote from: "LSBeene"
Ummm .. no

I'm me pretty much everywhere.

I don't do the "multiple account" or whatever stuff.

I post as LSBeene everywhere I go on the 'Net.

-----------------

Ok, that's not true in ONE case: there are (actually it's been months since I've done it) a few hardline feminist boards that I use "made up" names and post as a chick to bounce ideas.

=========

But, that said ... no, bro .... I'm Steven all day come rain or shine.

Why?

Steven



At least my mentioning it toned down the glare..... :lol:

LSBeene

#13
Dec 31, 2004, 09:33 PM
Are we engaging in smartass commentary as a way to modify my posts!?

(plz read that I'm TOTALLY tongue in cheek and laughing while writing this)

If you have any further "comments" as to the nature of my God-like writing abilities I suggest you file it under "kiss-my-MRA-ass" and keep truckin'!!

(again, I'm just being playful bro -- plz take it as such)

Steven
'Watch our backs at home, we'll guard the wall over here. You can sleep safe tonight, we'll guard the door."

Isaiah 6:8
"Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?" And I said, "Here am I. Send me!"

Dr. Feelgood

#14
Jan 01, 2005, 04:31 AM
Quote from: "LSBeene"
Are we engaging in smartass commentary as a way to modify my posts!?

(plz read that I'm TOTALLY tongue in cheek and laughing while writing this)

If you have any further "comments" as to the nature of my God-like writing abilities I suggest you file it under "kiss-my-MRA-ass" and keep truckin'!!

(again, I'm just being playful bro -- plz take it as such)

Steven

I asked a question, you denied it and modified your own self. Let the rest speak for itself. ...tongue in cheek and all, of course. :lol:
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