Ampersands "Male priviledge checklist".

[mens_issues]

... and I think it was mentioned that Tony Ananda wouldn't mind either.

Steve

What am I?  A friggin' potted plant in the corner?

LOL

Umm, no, I really mean it.

I had no idea that you wrote it a few years back as I just saw it posted under Tony Ananda's name.  OK, here's my genuflection to Galt for writing it:

:daman:

[Galt]

It's strange the something like that surfaces after a couple of years.

[Quasimodo]

Ampersand has left the building ! !

It appears Ampersand (that artful dodger, piss be unto him), so vacillating in his defense of Hu-go-Boy, has no desire to defend his own writings in a thread prominently bearing his tag. He probably gave up on "educating" the posters on standyourground and decided to find a site where they're dissecting Faludi's last book -- what was it "Screwed," "Shafted," "Fucked," something like that.

He and his ilk highlight the fact that MRAs have to take a higher profile in the men's movement. Should the government ever come around and begin to recognize men's issues, who do you think they'll go to to run their male/father-positive programs. Will it be us or the ACFC and the like? OR will it be the compliant, "unoffensive" National Fatherhood Initiative and the Hugos and Ampersands of the nation? You betcha.

Imagine the VAWA or Title IX made gender-neutral or with male parity. Now imagine a clone war of Hugos running the men's commissions and shelter networks. See?

[Roy]

Quasimodo -- Imagine the VAWA or Title IX made gender-neutral or with male parity. Now imagine a clone war of Hugos running the men's commissions and shelter networks. See?

That's a keen observation.

As MRAs continue to gain more public exposure, it's entirely reasonable to expect the rad-fems to seek to co-opt the movement by insinuating their fellow-travellers in positions that shape policy and control funding.

Always expect the worst from NOW and its vile sisterhood, which the Dr. Hugos worship and serve.

Once the men's movement starts competing with VAWA for funding and political space, the true face of feminism will be illuminated in all its ugliness and their racketeering scheme will be exposed for what it is.

[dr e]

Imagine the VAWA or Title IX made gender-neutral or with male parity. Now imagine a clone war of Hugos running the men's commissions and shelter networks. See?

Quasimodo: That is a sobering and frightening thought.  All that work going down the drain by having a feminist clone with a penis taking over.  This gives us very good reason to have broad coalitions with men who are radical, moderate, and mainstream.  We need to work together.

[typhonblue]

Imagine the VAWA or Title IX made gender-neutral or with male parity. Now imagine a clone war of Hugos running the men's commissions and shelter networks. See?

Quasimodo: That is a sobering and frightening thought.  All that work going down the drain by having a feminist clone with a penis taking over.  This gives us very good reason to have broad coalitions with men who are radical, moderate, and mainstream.  We need to work together.

Indeed.

I wonder what issue the MRAs movement could adopt to legitimize it to the (liberal) men who will most likely end up in a men's right's commission...

hmm...

[Roy]

TBlue-- I wonder what issue the MRAs movement could adopt to legitimize it to the (liberal) men who will most likely end up in a men's right's commission...

Given that most such male commissioners will be career politicians, the issue is obvious --- their continued livelihood.

In other words, only when MRA's influence becomes a potential voting constituency will the pols start to actually care about men's rights.

In other (other) words, only when their own self-serving futures depend upon paying attention to issues they have too long neglected.

I look forward (soon!) to the first congressman/person, senator, governor, or president who loses his/her seat because they lost the strategically critical "swing voter" coalition -- MRAs!

[The Gonzman]

In other words, only when MRA's influence becomes a potential voting constituency will the pols start to actually care about men's rights.

Bingo.