a recent expirience

[Hachu]

Hachu, thank you for giving me not one but two hijacked threads in two days.


Rape by definition should be sexual intercourse, anal or vaginal, with the penis, fingers or a foreign object  by use or threat of force with adults. In children no use or threat of force is necessary.

Sound right?

Well, now if alcohol is used, then it is considered rape if the girl changes her mind.

Now if she  changes her mind but only says "I have to get going" and he doesn't stop then it is rape.

If a 17 year old girl and a 16 year old boy have consensual sex it is considered rape-for the boy and he is arrested.

A squeeze of the breast or a copped feel of a butt is considered sexual assault and goes in statistics as rape.



Yes, the definition has been dumbed down. It has been dumbed down a lot. Some women will say "I was raped with his eyes" if a man looks too long. Rape has become almost meaningless because the word is so overused. I am sure THAT is helping women.

"The abuse of the word Rape, and the laws affecting such, can only be changed by men"

Are you high? Women have abused the word rape, women have pushed for the loosening of rape laws, only women can stop it.

women, as a whole aren't capable, because there are too many places on this damned earthwhere woman/infant/children/teens/adults are being damaged (which you can compare to your child support woes all you want, but I'm not having it) for the simple fact of them being female

What the hell is that supposed to mean? You trying to make it out worse by making more catagories? Give me a break.Infants, children and teens are not women. You cannot add them in to pad your numbers and create a larger victim base. This is how the rates are artifically padded to begin with

Women are the voting majority in the US. Women are safer than men in the US. Men are 3 times more likly to be a victim of a violent crime in the US. People do not treat women poorly in the US because they are female. Women are protected for being female and given privilages.



I am a woman, so don't you dare tell me I can't understand because I am a man.  I do not live in fear of being raped. I do not fear for my mother or sisters. Why? Because it just does not happen as often as they say. Also, the women who are most at risk are women in inner cities and  women with questionable lifestyles. They are 30 times more likely to be raped. Since I live out in the middle of nowhere, and do not go out alone at night, or go to bars at night, or otherwise put myself in situations where I am at greater risk, I really don't worry about it.

Do those women ask for it? Not really. However there are situations in which people in general are not safe, and that is when violent crime, including rape, is more likely to happen. If a woman chooses to go out in the city alone at night, she is more likely to get raped. If a man goes to Harlem in the middle of the night with a nice suit on he is more likly to get assaulted. Did either choose to get assaulted? No. But did they increase their risk factors by being there? Yes.



The point of this thread, thank you for asking, was that because these women could not get over the details of the crime, they could not have a discussion about occurance rates. You have just done the same DAMN THING. You have hijacked this thread and turned it into oh poor women evil men just cannot understand rape is too horrible to be able to talk about unless we are sharing or blaming men. It is all the fault of evil men, they oppress us and have for years, and of course they will never understand.

Well piss off. Start your own damn thread if you want to debate the details.

She will no longer respond to this thread.

Not wanting to hijack anything

Apoligizes

[The Biscuit Queen]

Thank you.

[The Biscuit Queen]

Maatkare understands what you are saying,
in totality

But she doesn't also knows that even without feminist and rape, its hard for people to

just

get over

it.

Who is Maatkare, why is Hachu talking about herself as if she were a different person? Why is she talking in third person?

I am very confused.

[LSBeene]

TBQ,

I think you're a treat to have around too.  Just in case you were wondering!!  

Steven

[The Biscuit Queen]

You like me, you really like me!  :lol:

You guys are going to give me a big head here, you know.

[The Gonzman]

What is your definition of rape? Of Male, female, or otherwise?

Rape occurs if and only if the perpetrator of it has sex with the victim after the victim clearly expresses "no."

And how do you dumb down it?

By defining every pissant little thing as "rape."  Women are not raped if someone looks at their ass or boobs.  Rape is not when the conversation goes, "Can we have Sex?" "No." "Please?" "Oh, okay."  There is no rape if you are drunk, unless you are unconscious.  

This one believes in the back of every woman's mind, at some point, in their lives, there is a question," what if I/my sister/daughter/mother was raped?" or maybe even, " Will I/my sister/daughter/mother be raped?"

and is sure it existed

before the insertion of radical feminism

which only took what was there, and used it to further it's agenda

Everyone fears being the victim of a crime when corcumstances are ripe for that crime to occur.  Feminism (And there is no difference between radical feminism or any other false qualifying label) has whipped that fear into an all consuming frenzy and paranoia.

[Thomas]

BiscuitQueen defined:

Rape by definition should be sexual intercourse, anal or vaginal, with the penis, fingers or a foreign object by use or threat of force with adults. In children no use or threat of force is necessary.

I'm dealing with a lot of personal matters and don't have much time to post on BBs right now, but I saw this and want to respond. (Apologies to BQ for continuing with the hijacked aspect of this thread.) The problem with such a definition of rape is that it requires penetration. In other words, if a female forces sexual intercourse on a male, she has not raped him. Without question, the definition of rape should include engulfment. Forced sexual intercourse is rape, whether the person doing the forcing is penetrating or engulfing.

Also, I don't believe that engulfment or penetration are always necessary for rape to occur. I have a good friend who was attacked by a man, who almost killed her. Apparently, he was high as a kite. He got her pants off and his down and was humping her. He asked if he was inside her. She said, "Yes," though he in fact hadn't penetrated her, and he kept humping until he ejaculated on her. As far as she was concerned, as far as the police were concerned, and as far as I'm concerned, he raped her, though I understand that others might take exception to calling this rape.

[The Biscuit Queen]

Good point.
I don't think that it excludes men being raped because sexual intercourse for a man is the same as a women. If he penetrates, it is sexual intercourse for both of them. If she forced that contact then she is the rapist, regardless of who did the actual penetration.

I will have to think about the second case.

[contrarymary]

But our society is out of control with these false accusations

Too true.  It's the modern day Crucible.

[contrarymary]

Rape is the ultimate offense of a man imposing his strength and sexual opinion on women.

False Rape is the ultimate offense of a woman imposing her strength and sexual opinion on men.

Oh, god, yes.  Sadly, I would never have realized this but that it happened to T.   That is why people need to be educated about the vile, crime of falsely accusing another of rape/incest.

[contrarymary]

Captain Stubing, that was a beautiful post.