Jerry Springer, Dr. Phil, Oprah and Desparate Housewives ...

[Galt]

...And lo, the Angel rolled away the clouds, and I saw upon the Hill of bBabylon the Obese Harlot, and her skin was as ebony, and upon her hand was a fat physician mouthing obscenity.  And surrounding them were the whores of the Woods, and they had Holly in their hair, and their deeds were detestable.  And the people beheld them, and many were decieved, while others fell away rending their garments and praying to the Lord of Hosts for Deliverance from these plagues...

Would that be the passage?

LOL

That was pretty much the one I was thinking of.

[Galt]

Hachu:

Sometimes you need a bit of a thick skin on message boards.  I know that I've gotten aggravated myself over a whole lot of responses that I've gotten, and probably rightfully so, but then I adopted the attitude that "it's just electrons hitting my monitor screen".

And yes, I know that I'm a total hypocrite saying that, because I did get aggravated about the iFeminist boards.  But I'm a new person now (LOL).  And anyway, being a hypocrite isn't all that bad.  At least I know what OTHER PEOPLE should do, even though I don't follow it myself.

[Hachu]

Hachu:

Sometimes you need a bit of a thick skin on message boards.  I know that I've gotten aggravated myself over a whole lot of responses that I've gotten, and probably rightfully so, but then I adopted the attitude that "it's just electrons hitting my monitor screen".

And yes, I know that I'm a total hypocrite saying that, because I did get aggravated about the iFeminist boards.  But I'm a new person now (LOL).  And anyway, being a hypocrite isn't all that bad.  At least I know what OTHER PEOPLE should do, even though I don't follow it myself.

ooooh, don't get Maatkare wrong

Online internet folk don't figure into this one's day to day activities, thoughts, in life.

She was just being an asshole...

*Wink*

[dr e]

Profound1 said:

"Maatkare loves Oprah! " tune in moronated asshole!

This seems to be a personal attack.  Unless I can be convinced otherwise consider this a warning.

Get me Oprah, I will ensure her head depart's her vile disgusting head! very soon -- I will ensure an other perspective

Sounds like advocating violence.  That's warning #2.  One more and you are out of here.

[Galt]

I agree with that.  I pretty much disagree with Hachu, but I still think that was a really hard and unwarranted personal attack against her.

[Graboid]

I pretty much disagree with Hachu

I don't know whether I agree with her or not because I can hardly understand a word she says!

[Buddy-Rey]

Help me, everybody!!!  I just found out that my dad watches Dr. Phil!!!  Are there any twelve-step programs that I can get him enrolled in?!?!

    Regarding the Anorexia issue, it always perplexes me that this is such a huge problem here, because (and this true) real women have curves.  It strikes me as almost sadly ironic that, in the present day, Marilyn Monroe would be considered "fat", even though her body shape is my ideal, and I think most men would agree.  Personally, I'd rather marry a woman who was a little big than one who was abnormally thin.  Maybe that's purely a matter of personal preference, but then again, I honestly think that today's ideas of female beauty have been horribly skewed and warped by a perfectionist, imbalanced, and cruel media.

    This has the harmful and tragic effect of making women who actually look perfect just the way they are needlessly loathe themselves for not meeting an unmeetable standard.  One could say that males experience an equally hurtful, but decidedly different media-imposed criteria for beauty.  Really, it's about time we do away with industry-controlled archetypes entirely, and decide for ourselves what's beautiful and what isn't.  But I have a feeling we won't, because most people are frightened and impressionable, and must be told what to like.  Bah, I'm ranting again.

[contrarymary]

I pretty much disagree with Hachu

I don't know whether I agree with her or not because I can hardly understand a word she says!

I decipher her posts either, which is a damned shame, because I feel she has something really worthwhile to share.

[contrarymary]

I was anorexic in 1967, before anyone doctor in South Jersey knew what anorexia was.  I went from 5'1", 120 pounds, down to 67 pounds, and no one noticed.  It took a nun in my school to write a letter to my parents to tell them to LOOK at me.  I was dying in front of everyone, and no one noticed, because I was a good and quiet little 12 year old, obedient and never causing anyone any trouble.  Inside, I was screaming with pain.  About what, I really couldn't tell you.

I can't tell you why I became anorexic, except the usual teasing because I was plump.  I recovered only when I went down the shore with my grandparents.  I would eat for them, but not for my parents.  

There's really no sense in over-analysing the situation.  From painful experience, most every mental health professional will tell an eating disorcer patient that she was sexually abused.

Oh, I have a tale to tell about all that.... but let me give you a little snippet:

in the psych hospital for bulimia, patients were rewarded for "memories" of childhood sexual abuse.  It seemed as though there was a contest to see who could conjure up the most horrific memories. Those of us who were drawinga blank were routinely ignored.  It got to the point where another patient turned to me and said, "Is the only way to get attention here to scream that you were sexually abused?  Maybe I should make something up too."

Need I add that I found myself an outcast in the eating disorders community, for myriad reasons.

[Hachu]

Help me, everybody!!!  I just found out that my dad watches Dr. Phil!!!  Are there any twelve-step programs that I can get him enrolled in?!?!

    Regarding the Anorexia issue, it always perplexes me that this is such a huge problem here, because (and this true) real women have curves.  It strikes me as almost sadly ironic that, in the present day, Marilyn Monroe would be considered "fat", even though her body shape is my ideal, and I think most men would agree.  Personally, I'd rather marry a woman who was a little big than one who was abnormally thin.  Maybe that's purely a matter of personal preference, but then again, I honestly think that today's ideas of female beauty have been horribly skewed and warped by a perfectionist, imbalanced, and cruel media.

    This has the harmful and tragic effect of making women who actually look perfect just the way they are needlessly loathe themselves for not meeting an unmeetable standard.  One could say that males experience an equally hurtful, but decidedly different media-imposed criteria for beauty.  Really, it's about time we do away with industry-controlled archetypes entirely, and decide for ourselves what's beautiful and what isn't.  But I have a feeling we won't, because most people are frightened and impressionable, and must be told what to like.  Bah, I'm ranting again.

Male anorexia exist and has long been ignored
Men also abuse their bodies in other ways to a masculine standard

Every see those guys in the gym, and Maatkare ain't talking about body builders-
-The ones that are bone thin, pale, with skinny chicken legs, that are killing themselves trying to max out the equipments weight capacity to the point were they are throwing their bodies to lift the weight rather then using their muscle. They look like they are about to kill themselves managing one rep, then they go and check themselves out in the mirror?