Is this true?

[sethay]

Just a quick question I was hoping someone could clear up for me:

http://www.goshen.edu/news/pressarchive/02-14-05-women-violence.html

You don't need to read the article, I just wondered about the following quote:
"Every day four women die in this country as a result of domestic violence."

My first inclination is that it was probably just feminist propaganda...but 1400 women in the US a year, that isn't really that many actually so maybe it is correct.  Is it close to correct, or not?  If not, what are the correct statistics?

[dr e]

I think the figure is slightly inflated.  My memory is that the number of women murdered by an intimate in the US is less than 1000 per year.  It might be more accurate to say 2.8 women die each day from intimate violence.  It is important to keep in mind that this is out of the entire US population which is about 295 million.  It is also important to remember that well over 70% of all those murdered are men.  At this rate we could say that every day over 30 men are murdered.  That is a conservative number.  It is likely more but it is easily ten times that of women murdered by intimates but you don't hear a peep now do you?  No one gives a crap.  Expendable.

[Alpha Male]

Look at it this way, even if the number of women being killed were 10 times higher than what they are reporting, that is still less than 5/1000ths of 1% of the population of the United States. And the number they are reporting is still 7.5 times less than the number of males murdered. Any murder is tragic but it simply isn't the epidemic they want you to believe it is. Besides that, if you want to allocate funds based on the number of deaths, seems to me you need to be spending money on the men first to knock that number down. The number of deaths they are reporting don't stack up to other causes of death either. Gun related deaths are around 14,000 per year last time I checked, most related to gangs and drugs. There are other more pressing issues.

[sethay]

True.  When I argue this with my peers, they argue that this is not true for our subculture of educated, white, middle class.  While the dv deaths equally affect our subculture, the gang violence does not.  Any suggestions on how to respond?

[Sir Jessy of Anti]

Well auto accidents have a much higher rate of fatalities among that sub-group than DV deaths.  So do acts of random violence (effecting mostly men) for that matter.  The question is, what is their point?

[sethay]

Their point is that, in our sub-culture, violence against women is a more important issue then violence against men, thus justifying the conference that I linked to.

[Sir Jessy of Anti]

Well, I guess to sexists, it is a more important issue.  In terms of violence, men are overwhelmingly more likely to be both the perpetrators and the victims of violence.   However, you wouldn't hear these same people say that since ethnic groups commit more violence non-ethnic groups should be the focus of anti-violence activism.