Acksiom, I did get a chance to look at those links. I apologize for immediately jumping to a critical conclusion without reading them...they actually did contain some good concepts. As I said, I am used to that type of site promoting the "act like something your not just to get laid" approach so I was expecting this to be more of the same.
As neon said, the problem for us "normal guys" is that yes, we're "plan b"- we weren't exciting or interesting in our teens and twenties when the 6'5 guy with the tatts/motorcycle/alcohol habit/etc. was "exciting" , but suddenly when she realized her 20s won't go on forever, a "normal, boring guy" with a decent job, a good head on his shoulders, his life more or less together, etc. suddenly is "interesting". Wouldn't it be better for everyone involved if women looked for this type of guy sooner? Women get hurt dating bad boys who cheat/lie/abuse, men get hurt feeling like unwanted schmucks...
Ironic also that women create the very type of guy they despise...they say they hate men who are insecure, clingy, or desperate, well ladies guess where that came from?
It's not that most guys can't get dates or can't get laid... it's just that most men have to work for what they get and face a lot of rejections in the process.
But as I said previously, in some sense those rejections are a good thing...meeting with the approval of an insecure, emotionally unstable, immature, self-centered girl who sleeps around doesn't really say much about a man anyway (even if she IS really hot), does it? Chances are a nice, stable, intelligent, guy with some direction is his life has a better chance with a woman who is decent, table, and has some direction in her life...as rare as they are, such women do exist.
