It seems to me that a real "feminist" would actually promote many of the ideals that most of us at SYG do. I.e., if women really wanted to be decent, just, moral people who are considered competent, capable, and accountable...that would seem to be a "real feminist movement." What has passed for feminism is largely a veiled selfish narcissism and avoidance of responsibility. I have to think that if we could start the ball rolling towards women realizing this, we would find that men have more and more "allies" in this movement. I think a big part of the probelm today is the old brand of feminsim has brainwashed entire generations fo women. Many young women today are already dissacociated from the "feminsit" label because they see how ridiculous it is. But they still staunchly hold on to male-bashing, no-fault divorce, alimony in it's currents tate, and double standards which generally shield them from shame, balme, responsibility, and accountability.
I still believe a lot of women are decent enough human beings that if they actually heard things from a different perspective than what they've been bombarded with at every turn since childhood, they might feel a little differently. I don't think most women would want to be considered helpless victims IF they actually REALIZED that is how they are currently treated.
