Definition: feminism

[Conspiracy Theory]

The New World Order types want to depopulate drastically.  It is on every single one of their 'mission statements' around the world.

[Conspiracy Theory]

"Marxism allows them to collectivise and centralize wealth and power. Feminism allows them to control reproduction and child rearing. They are monopolists, and really they are royalty and elite families who want to maintain their status. They control the military industrial complex and they have more weapons either psychological or political viruses like feminism at their disposal than we can understand. That's what they do."


So then Marxism is only the tool that the elites (ie. the top capitalists) use.





"Next you'll tell me there really never has been a true communist society."



Actually no.  I'm the one roping you into saying that that isn't "real" capitalism.  but silly me, of course capitalism isn't about concentrating wealth...

Whether you like it or not competition wants to destroy competition and so leads, eventually, to tyranny

I'm not a Marxist by the way.

So you agree with me.  

Anyways,  it dumbs us down,  and creates controlled schools for the dumb.  This is why 'children's services' are so powerful and ironically controlled by feminists.

The reason home schooling is demonized on television daily is all for this reason.

With the 'Telecommunications bill'  of 1996 in America totalism is probably inevitable.  Kind of like the movie '5th Element'  where the evil thing gobbals up all the communications satalites for its purpose.  

Feminism is just MK Ultra mind control on a mass scale.  Marx was not the originator,  Hegal and Kant were before him.  I guess Plato before that.  Etc...

[typhonblue]

3.) Feminine women who support masculine men are second on the list of targets by the new world people.

Whew. Missed persecution by a hair.

BTW I don't see feminine women being persecuted at all. You'll have to point it out to me.

I see feminine women (by my definition of feminine which is... getting others to do for you) getting a whole hell of a lot of perks.

I would include feminist women in that catagory. They certainly use all the feminine wiles in the book (save, perhaps for sexual allure) to get their way and I rarely see them lifting a finger unless they're wagging it.

[Conspiracy Theory]

So then Marxism is only the tool that the elites (ie. the top capitalists) use.

No, it's not the only one,  it just happens to be a good one.

Actually no.  I'm the one roping you into saying that that isn't "real" capitalism.  but silly me, of course capitalism isn't about concentrating wealth...

Okay,  it's not real capitalism.  Well not in the free market sense.  

Whether you like it or not competition wants to destroy competition and so leads, eventually, to tyranny

What does wether I like it or not have anything to do with it?
I'm just trying to expose it for what it is.  Capitalists claiming to be 'socialists' or 'communists' who are trying to fight for human rights blah blah blah so they can take your money.  But that's the lower end and the sell out for those in real power.  The ones in real power would rather just eradicate us all.

I'm not a Marxist by the way.

I'm not a capitalist by the way.

But state controlled centralized power turns us into serfs.  

Feminists believe they are taking down the patriarchy,  what they are doing is taking down free market and forfieting reproductive rights over to the state.  Much like ancient sparta,  with their eugenics policies etc...

Why does David Rockefeller finance Marxism?  Why is communism his friend in business?   Because it's a ruse,  just like Karl Marx was a fraud and spy who ratted out true revolutionaries.

Why do all feminists have to study Karl Marx?  They do in Canada anyways,  and the ones in America pay such great homage to him, aka, Catherin MacKinnon et al.

Sorry if I sounded offensive in my earlier posts it was not my intention,  neither was it in any recent posts.

[bukowski]

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Actually no. I'm the one roping you into saying that that isn't "real" capitalism. but silly me, of course capitalism isn't about concentrating wealth...




"Okay, it's not real capitalism. Well not in the free market sense."



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Whether you like it or not competition wants to destroy competition and so leads, eventually, to tyranny





"What does wether I like it or not have anything to do with it?"




Because the argument, as you used, that it isn't "real free market" capitalism is meaningless just as it's meaningless that Marxists claim that the Soviet Union, China and Cuba weren't/aren't really communism.

What matters is real life and in real life Marxism is authoritarian because it centralizes state power, and capitalism becomes tyrannical because it centralizes wealth.  Both create tyranny in real life.

You blame it on Marxism, leaving out who is actually behind that, the capitalists who won.  And that's why I brought up capitalism.  It seems to get off the hook here.

[Conspiracy Theory]

I thought  that what I said implied who I thought was to blame.  Since I see Marxism as fake I can't obviously be blaming communists now can I?

And I often say that those who are what may be called 'grassroots' activists are actually being misled by a top down system.  Did I really have to say 'capitalists'?  They are monopolists,  oligarchists,  elite royalty.

Not sure wether I would put Royal families in this catogory or not.  Either way they are war mongers and they will do what they have to for power.

It's all the same and Karl Marx worked for them.  So yes anyone who claims to be a communist is by analogy a part of it wether they like it or not.

[Conspiracy Theory]

There's so much anti-Marxist rhetoric yet sometimes I wonder what Marx they have been reading.....

Do you have a suggestion for reading?

Would these people actually be Marxists?  Or capitalists?  Who's currently center stage in the power game?

Yes they would be under my definition.  As I said, Marxism is misleading.  IT is designed to fail.  If the originator specifically designed it to fail (at least in representation to the serfs) why?  Because it was designed to make a false promise to the serfs and fullfill the desires of the elites.  If it is successful for the elites, who happen to be the ones spouting it all over, then yes, they are marxists are they not?  And yes they are greedy capitalists as you pointed out and what I thought I had implied.  Capitalism does not get off the hook here,  but it's monolithic capitalist system or state funded fascism or socialism either way the same people seem to benifit over and over.

Statist is not synonomous with Marxist.  (though most Marxists are)

That's like saying not all feminists are man haters and they really just want equality because that's what the dictionary tells us it means.

They are judged by thier actions.   So sure, some peace loving hippies can all commune together,  but does that have any affect on us?  No,  just the Nazi like ones who love to mess with legislature to change things from with in.    

This is a weapon to destroy America and other countries like Canada, and the whole continent of Africa.  Feminism is pushing hard in Africa right now, and by golly it is the IMF who is behind the campaign.  What a great bunch of guys they are.  I'm sure they leave tears in their beers at their Bilderberg meetings over Africa.   By the way I don't think there has been any minutes of a bilderberg meeting where discussion of depopulation hasn't been a major topic for them.   So it's a good thing they are sending feminists to "help"  African women gain control of their lives over the evil patriarchy and their spreading of aids etc...   It's kind of like sending wolves to find lost sheep who were lost because the wolves were chasing them.

[TestSubject]

Society has been given a steady stream of false information for the last few decades.  Most people believe they are doing the right thing.

Men need to learn that feminism is designed to harm women.

[Conspiracy Theory]

Society has been given a steady stream of false information for the last few decades.  Most people believe they are doing the right thing.

Men need to learn that feminism is designed to harm women.

I'm not sure what you are implying here,  but I will try to elaborate my point.

Feminism tells women each and everyday that being a woman is a terrable oppressive thing.  That they are prols by analogy.  This is done to motivate women into mouth foaming activism.   But, on the same hand 90% of the men I talk to here believe what just about every other feminist female believes.  It has become institutionalized and "common knowledge".

Such as women are 95% of the victims etc... in dv.  But why?  Doesn't elaborating on the whole issue of dv more appropriate for solving the problem?  Some will say well it's because of money in the system feeding off the VAWA trough which has brought us to this.  I say it goes much higher than that.  

http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm  That is a link to the Georgia Guidestones but I will quote the list here:

"THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature. "



Some noble pursuits so long as you are of the 500, 000, 000 chosen ones.  They really believe this stuff, and feminism is one of their tools at reaching this goal.  The women who help them pursue this will be left out to dry in the end.

[TestSubject]

I simply quoted for agreement.

[MacKenzie]

My personal creation:

Feminism: The nagging fear that somewhere, some male may be happy.

[bukowski]

Yes they would be under my definition. As I said, Marxism is misleading. IT is designed to fail. If the originator specifically designed it to fail (at least in representation to the serfs) why? Because it was designed to make a false promise to the serfs and fullfill the desires of the elites. If it is successful for the elites, who happen to be the ones spouting it all over, then yes, they are marxists are they not? And yes they are greedy capitalists as you pointed out and what I thought I had implied. Capitalism does not get off the hook here, but it's monolithic capitalist system or state funded fascism or socialism either way the same people seem to benifit over and over.

For a capitalist to call himself a Marxist to mislead others into following them for some sort of benefit, as you say in freeing serfs, would not that only be a wolf in sheeps clothing and not a sheep?  The clothing being the lie to hide the wolf, the capitalist?  By concentrating on the sheep's clothing you help, possibly unwittingly, hide who the wolf is.  Most people see the word Marxist, and if they think of the opposite, they think capitalist.

(but a Marxist state, even without any help from the elite, would still quickly become a dictatorship)







my quote you quoted---"Statist is not synonomous with Marxist. (though most Marxists are)"

That's like saying not all feminists are man haters and they really just want equality because that's what the dictionary tells us it means.

They are judged by thier actions. So sure, some peace loving hippies can all commune together, but does that have any affect on us? No, just the Nazi like ones who love to mess with legislature to change things from with in.

Possibly I was not clear.  When I said that statist is not synonymous with Marxism I was meaning that not all statists were Marxists. (but most Marxists are statists).  The way you used Marxist/ism seemed, in my opinion, used in place of the word statist.  The capitalist statist, or statist in general.  

Personally I believe some people will go with which ever side is winning since their side is with power.

(I mean no offense in the above either)

[FEMINAZIHATEMARTYR]

Feminism= Censorship, infanticide, presumption of guilt, serial false witness, endless victimization & liability, lesbian narcisism & elitism, misandry, androcide, heterophobia, state induced slavery, phony statistics & propaganda and Stalinist-tyranny. I think this sums it up pretty closely.

[Conspiracy Theory]

For a capitalist to call himself a Marxist to mislead others into following them for some sort of benefit, as you say in freeing serfs, would not that only be a wolf in sheeps clothing and not a sheep?  The clothing being the lie to hide the wolf, the capitalist?  By concentrating on the sheep's clothing you help, possibly unwittingly, hide who the wolf is.  Most people see the word Marxist, and if they think of the opposite, they think capitalist.

Yes a wolf in sheeps clothing.    As someone smarter than me once said, "There's not a dimes worth of difference between the democrate and republican parties."  I'm not saying one is this or one is that, I'm just saying the anology fits our conversation.

Secondly, wasn't the Neo Cons main influence extremely marxist?  The patriot sure seems so.  

my quote you quoted---"Statist is not synonomous with Marxist. (though most Marxists are)"

Well I personally think it is.  

Possibly I was not clear.  When I said that statist is not synonymous with Marxism I was meaning that not all statists were Marxists. (but most Marxists are statists).  The way you used Marxist/ism seemed, in my opinion, used in place of the word statist.  The capitalist statist, or statist in general.  

Well Marxism is such a mongrel of ideology and evengilism I suppose I could point out similarities all day long.  The fact remains the concepts are verbatum in the schools and in the UN treaties and conventions that all these countries adopt and the exact same outcome happens every time.  It's like giving indians blankets laced with small pox.   The ideology is the false comfort, false promise for what the real intention is.   Feminism is supposed to free women, make them equal and what it really does is enslave them, and dehumanize them convince them to hate themselves for being women and psychologically sterilizing them.   It's a war campaign against societies by turning one side against another.  It destabalizes society and depopulates nations.  Turns the people against eachother,  and allows future generations to be controlled by the elites rather than the birth parents who are at war with eachother etc...