Started by Roy, Jun 18, 2005, 09:27 PM
Seriously, I think a great place to learn about normal, ordinary men is at the standyourground.com BB. No doubt you will be appalled and insulted by much of what goes down there due to the anti-feminist nature of many there, but still, IMO it's a very good place to get a realistic view of what normal, healthy men are thinking vis-a-vis feminism and gender issues in general. (Mr. Bad 6.18.05)
Mr. Bad, I read this to my husband, who was a SSgt in the USMC, is very definitely a "man's man," and is most definitely an "alpha male" type (most medics, firefighters, and rodeo hands are alpha-types, and it shows). He mentioned something about gagging. (Caitriona 6.18.05)
A miniscule of men in this country post on Standyourground, listen to Glenn Sacks, let alone belong to the various MRA organizations. I'm sure that like most people MRAs tend to associate with those who share similar interests and concerns, and that might lead them to think that their "concerns" about the evils of feminism are keeping men awake at night across the country, but as far as I can tell, you've got no actual evidence for that. (djw 6.18.05)
IMO it's a very good place to get a realistic view of what normal, healthy men are thinking vis-a-vis feminism and gender issues in general.
Mr. Bad, I read this to my husband, who was a SSgt in the USMC, is very definitely a "man's man," and is most definitely an "alpha male" type (most medics, firefighters, and rodeo hands are alpha-types, and it shows). He mentioned something about gagging.
But it sounds like she derives her whole sense of identity from someone else
How do you make this conclusion ?She just wrote what her husband said, as a response to the comment about SYG being populated with "normal men".
Like I said, I think that you should stick to what you know, i.e., feminism and homosexuality, and leave healthy, normal masculinity to those of us who understand it.
I have lots of male friends today. How normal are they? Most of my male friends are straight and married; a few are gay and a few are single. Most, but not all, are college educated white guys between 30-55. Half have children. About half are serious Christians, but others are agnostics, Unitarians, and students of Kabbalah. Most are liberal Democrats, but a few are solid Republicans. But there's one thing every one of my close male friends has in common: we are all, to a man, quite concerned with the appearance and performance of our bodies. (Hugo)
All in all, I think it's counterproductive, even dangerous, to question the masculine credentials of those who do gender work. Given the rigid rules of American sexual culture, it's all but certain than any man who does speak critically about male behavior will have his manhood questioned. (Hugo)
This has been one of the basic issue in the men's movement for a long time, i.e., who were are, who will be our leaders and spokespersons, etc. And what we all have mostly unanimously decided is that we will decide who we are and not let feminists or others do so for us. Hugo, I challenge you to go over to StandYourGround and post there as a spokesperson of "the authentic men's movement" and see whether you are accepted as such. (Mr. Bad)
I've not got the time to go over this piece by peace, but the "authentic men's movement" is the pro-feminist men's movement of NOMAS, Men Can Stop Rape, XY Online and so forth. (Hugo)