Goodbye Feminism

Started by angryharry, Aug 21, 2005, 10:17 AM

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natalie clifford barney

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I think men have more to gain from real equality than women actually. Feminism has been about taking all the good points of being a man and keeping all the good points of being a woman, which leaves men with zilch.


Sounds impressive... but do explain what is "taken from a man" and what women keep that leaves men with nothing and women everything?

And how does that jive with the attitude some men express over how women are after 'their' assets? If a man has nothing, what is there to 'take?'
o im gonna grab my soul
And leave my ego at the door
I'm gonna open up my eyes
So, c'mon sing along if ya wanna
Cry if ya hafta
Lean back into your lover's arms
Grab the hand of the person
Standing right next to you
Show them we are not afraid of who we are

~ Melissa Ferrick

natalie clifford barney

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It would also mean an end to alimony, and child support, since then men would be seen as equals as far as raising their kids, and we will have shared parenting.


I'm not sure which country you are in, but in the US, men are treated equitably in divorce court and with child support issues. Yeah, I've no doubt you can dredge up horror stories, but don't bother unless you have either an impartial source or both points of view. My understanding is he UK needs some work in this regard.

Men certainly should have joint custody... and there should have to be compelling reason to shut either parent out.
o im gonna grab my soul
And leave my ego at the door
I'm gonna open up my eyes
So, c'mon sing along if ya wanna
Cry if ya hafta
Lean back into your lover's arms
Grab the hand of the person
Standing right next to you
Show them we are not afraid of who we are

~ Melissa Ferrick

SouthernGuy

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Is this all about who has the biggest and the baddest, or is it or isn't it about construction? Damn this need to compare is goofy.


There is a HUGE distinction between residential and commercial construction, anyone who has spent any time in the indistry knows this. Adding a room to your home doesn't even remotely compare to the daily grind of real commercial work. Apples and oranges...

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You are skilled, I am skilled, good enough... or does it not stop until one has worked on the tallest building in the world, building it single handedly?


Five years ago, I slipped and almost fell four stories straight down the elevator shaft of Marriot Hotel I was building as a project manager. I barely caught myself and had to suck up the butterflies and continue my workday, hands still shaking because i had to support my family. What's the worst that can happen in residential work, a piece of sheet rock could fall over on you?

SG

dr e

An exception does not disprove the rule.
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

brian44

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How many women are in boardrooms, in Congress? Yes we can run, but we are at a huge disadvantage. The good ole boy network frequently encourages the candidates it wants to run, and they aren't women.


Well, in the UK we had a lady Primeminister in 1979. She won the election because so many women voted for her because she was a woman rather than what she stood for.

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How many men do you see worrying over whether they can have a career *and* a family?


How many women get kicked out of their home and away from their children even though it was their partner who committed adultery?

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How many men walk down a dark and deserted street and worry if a woman suddenly is walking behind him?


Men don't worry about women attacking them, they worry about men attacking them, which is more likely than a woman being attacked by a man.


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How about being asked to wear form fitting clothes and to wear make up at work?  


I once worked as a temp in an investment bank. I arrived without a tie and was told to go out and buy one or get another job. The women didn't have to wear ties, in fact as long as the didn't wear jeans they could get away with a hell of a lot more than the men.

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How many men suffer unwanted advances?


I have on two occasions. Being a mature adult I shrugged it off and put it down to experience rather than suing the crap out of the company I worked for.

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We won't even go into domestic abuse and rape statistics, and before you go ballistic, I fully recognise that the vast, vast majority of men are not abusers or rapists.


My wife hit me on a number of occasions, she had a mean left hook that used to connect with my right ear and was very painful. I never hit her once, or any of my other girlfriends.

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Pornography is primarily of women, and it is primarily viewed by men, though I certainly know dykes that are not adverse!


Are you serious? In the UK, it is women who go out and watch strippers these days. Men feel ashamed when they do it, women go and have a great time looking at male strippers. They have mags as well.
It is time we began to ask who are these women who continually rubbish men. The most stupid, ill-educated and nasty woman can rubbish the nicest, kindest and most intelligent man and no one protests.

Men seem to be so cowed that they can't fight back, and it is time they did." Doris Lessing

Julian

Who buys the most sex toys?

brian44

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Who buys the most sex toys?


Good point. We have blow up dolls, but their use certainly isn't very popular. If most men had electric fannies in their top drawer how would women feel?
It is time we began to ask who are these women who continually rubbish men. The most stupid, ill-educated and nasty woman can rubbish the nicest, kindest and most intelligent man and no one protests.

Men seem to be so cowed that they can't fight back, and it is time they did." Doris Lessing

Mr Benn

It won't be long until there are perfect looking robot sex dolls who are gorgeous, compliant, never smell, and squirt cold beer out of their c*nts.
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brian44

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It won't be long until there are perfect looking robot sex dolls who are gorgeous, compliant, never smell, and squirt cold beer out of their c*nts.


How do I put my name on the waiting list?
It is time we began to ask who are these women who continually rubbish men. The most stupid, ill-educated and nasty woman can rubbish the nicest, kindest and most intelligent man and no one protests.

Men seem to be so cowed that they can't fight back, and it is time they did." Doris Lessing

Raymond Cuttill

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It won't be long until there are perfect looking robot sex dolls who are gorgeous, compliant, never smell, and squirt cold beer out of their c*nts.


How do I put my name on the waiting list?


Beer? I can't. I'm on a diet.
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TestSubject

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How many men walk down a dark and deserted street and worry if a woman suddenly is walking behind him? How many men suffer unwanted advances?


Erm, well, I'm one.  Maybe I'm an exception.  Women "flirt" with me all the time when it would be in their best interest not to do so.  I'm guessing it's because I'm a pretty innocent guy (22, never been kissed, never had a gf), causing some women to take a sort of "fresh meat" or "ripe for the pickings" attitude toward me.

I confess though, I don't worry about women in dark alleys because they can just jump me in broad daylight and easily make it look like I was the perpetrator.

TestSubject

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It won't be long until there are perfect looking robot sex dolls who are gorgeous, compliant, never smell, and squirt cold beer out of their c*nts.


I don't know, part of the fun of women is disarming and conquering them...  with love, of course.  ;-)  I don't think I could bang a 'bot.

brian44

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It won't be long until there are perfect looking robot sex dolls who are gorgeous, compliant, never smell, and squirt cold beer out of their c*nts.


I don't know, part of the fun of women is disarming and conquering them...  with love, of course.  ;-)  I don't think I could bang a 'bot.


Believe me, if you saw the state of some of the women in London, you would consider banging a 'bot
It is time we began to ask who are these women who continually rubbish men. The most stupid, ill-educated and nasty woman can rubbish the nicest, kindest and most intelligent man and no one protests.

Men seem to be so cowed that they can't fight back, and it is time they did." Doris Lessing

Mr Benn

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Believe me, if you saw the state of some of the women in London, you would consider banging a 'bot


How do you mean Brian? In terms of them looking more androgenous?
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brian44

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Believe me, if you saw the state of some of the women in London, you would consider banging a 'bot


How do you mean Brian? In terms of them looking more androgenous?


Most of them act like men and many are overweight or generally unhealthy. The good looking ones have their heads so far up their own backsides they can't see daylight.
It is time we began to ask who are these women who continually rubbish men. The most stupid, ill-educated and nasty woman can rubbish the nicest, kindest and most intelligent man and no one protests.

Men seem to be so cowed that they can't fight back, and it is time they did." Doris Lessing

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