In order for one to debate the issue, one first has to frame the issue to
be debated. Your view of pc is quite a bit different from mine. Yassee, pc
for me is about basic respect.. we don't put people down for skin colour,
orientation, gender, religion, ethnicity...
yet you see it as fascism with roots in communism, a dichotomy if ever
there was one. Not to say your idea lacks merit, merely stating a surface
funny that black people, and homosexuals, and feminists are thought to have
arisen based on a corrupt legal system, since it was a corrupt society that
put them down to begin with. OK, I will grant some leeway in evolving from
agrarian to industrial society, but for African Americans, surely we can
blame society for how they ended up being considered less thans.
So why is it respect for each other is such a tough thing? Why is wishing
for us to live together in harmony fascism? Is there something inherently
wrong with African Americans, with women, with dykes that they cannot be a
part of a greater society? How does my partnering with another woman
adversely impact you?
I can tell you how evangelist Christians who seek to declare me second
class citizens adversely impact me, but there is no corresponding
reciprocation. And my issue with them ends when they leave me alone.
I am all for living together peacefully. PC however is not the way to do
it. It may be respect to you but it's censorship and thought control to me.
I want feminism to die its rightful death and for respect of sex
differences and sex roles to return.
How so? What sex differences? Heterosexual intercourse requires one
partner to have a penis, the other a vagina... but I don't think you use
your penis at work... so genitalia is irrelevant in a work environment. If
strength is needed, than strength is a requirement. I know of no woman that
would argue against legitimate requirements... most I know in the military
don't wish there to be separate standards.
Aside from sex, what requires sex differentation? Surely a man can parent
as well as a woman, and both are competent in the workplace, so why this
need? Why not let water seek it's own level individually? Not all men have
desire to be macho dudes, nor all women housewives. Why can't each of us
pursue our own dreams and interests?
A woman's primary role is mother/nurturer
A man's is protector/provider
Um, that is an outdated social construct. Now it may be you are
comfortable in that role, and no problems there... do what works for you.
Just don't impose that on others who see life differently. I'm a huge
believer in each of us reaching our full potential, being all we wish to
be. If this be your dream, and if someone shares it, fine with me. And we
should make sure our young are free to follow their own path.
We disagree. You call it an outdated social construct, I call it obvious
Culturally I would let the chips fall where they may for normal occupations
with the understanding that men and women naturally choose different paths
and have very different abilities. No quotas, no affirmative action,
nothing but merit.
Affirmative action has it's place, though as time goes on they become
less and less necessary. For the most part, women have made inroads into
the workforce, but we still have serious issues facing African Americans, a
systemic problem going back 150 years, because we didn't do it right then.
We have a duty to find solutions, and yes, African Americans have a duty to
find the solutions and work toward them. I'm an admirer of Nelson Mandela,
who believes the way to go is through education, and indeed that is the
case... but we have to help a culture that prides itself on education
develop, and we have to see to it the tools are there... that class sizes
are much smaller than now, kids thrive on individual attention... and by
the way, this is the approach that will help young men refocus on
Affirmative action creates resentment for the simple reason it punishes
those who have not committed the crime. I am in favor of helping out those
based on class, not race. If most of the poor in a particular area happen
to be black then so be it, but it shouldn't come in the form of an outright
As for the death professions- military, police, and fire departments etc
they should be exclusively all male for obvious biological reasons and
should be celebrated as such with no apologies to anyone.
No way. It's that simple. You meet the qualifications, you're in, no
gender restrictions in any way, shape, or form. Women are half this
country, with a corresponding place in it, participatory or otherwise. Any
new draft should be of men and women.
By the way, women are gaining ground on men in things like marathons, and
I've seen some suggest that a time will come in the future when women might
pass men in such events, because biologically they are predisposed to
having more endurance. We are a ways away, but the differences have
narrowed markedly in thirty years. And look at how far women have come in
one generation of basketball, with no mentor network.
The facts do not agree with you. The U.S., Canada, Israel and Britain as well as the former Soviet Union and
some recent stuff out of the Netherlands have done sex based performance
research. Cutting to the quick, the very top percent of women score only within the
bottom range of men. In other words for every level that a woman performs
at, no matter what that level is, there are tens of thousands of men who
can do it better. The qualifications in the military are bullshit and
everyone knows it. They can set the standard anywhere they want, a normal
healthy woman cannot compete with her relative normal healthy male
As far as the endurance thing goes, that's a myth that has creeping around
since the late 70's. It's long been debunked, but many books do not update
either their sources or the info gathered from said sources so this fallacy
reappears once in a while. The rationale for the myth was actually rather
absurd. You are also wrong about marathon times but this again is all academic. The truth is the very best female athletes are the way they are because they were exposed inappropriately to male hormone in utero. They excel because of male cells. Add to this the many 'females' who use synthetic Testosterone and what you have is someone who can no longer rationally be called 'female'.
Male cells+male hormone= male characteristics. Conversly female cells+female hormones= female characteristics.
I do thank you for taking time to share your views, this makes it a whole
lot better than throwing water balloons back and forth! Obviously I
disagree, but nonetheless admire you for putting in the effort.