WHile the men here certainly can get sick of women, none of them hate women. I have yet to hear of one gay man (not that it would be bad, but that they are all or mostly still heterosexual means they have not yet given up on women)
The men have valid points about limiting female participation in situations which endanger the men, such as front line combat, fire fighting, and police work. There is proven evidence that women in general cannot possibly do the same level of work as men in general, based on body mass differences. Even then most guys here feel that if a woman can meet the same exact physical standards the men meet, then she should be able to have the job.
Many, many feminists are lesbian. There is a push in feminist circles to be lesbian (I was in those circles at one time) They despise men. While men fight for 50/50 shared parenting, I have read dozens of feminist sites which proclaim fathers are worthless and not necessary for raising kids. There are books and programs out there in main stream culture "Why Men are Dogs" "Bring your Husband to Heel" which objectify and dehumanize men, which are embraced by women and society in general, but if you say "women are innately less capable at math than men", which can be proven, and watch out.
Feminism pits itself against men as the enemy. MRM pits feminism as it's enemy.
While there are men out there who objectify women, who want them barefoot and pregnant, the mainstream men's rights supporters publicly denounce that thinking. The men on this board would not put up with real misogyny. Feminists laugh at misandry. Since they feel men have always had the power, they feel justified in dehumanizing men. Most mra's feel that feminism has gotten out of hand, and they seek to balance the equation. Most mras look back and think that life was pretty fair until feminism came along. WHile women had less political and economic power, they also had far less responsibilites, they were protected and cared for, and they had social/family power. The myth that all husbands could beat their wives can be debunked with a 5 minute google search of the law, which in many cases protected women from harm.
I am reading a book now, which is written by a feminist. "Men, women and aggression". The whole book is based on the premise that women's violence is justified and excusable because it always stems from stress and emotion, but men's abuse is never justified because it always stems from a need to control and dominate. Hello, can you get any more simplistic that that? I have no idea what men she spoke with, but her examples are outragous. She says, after talking about a woman who hit her husband with a glass and then kicked out his knee, that he could have prevented it if he had been more understanding and listened better. If anyone here said that about a woman being battered, not only would they be wrong, they would be jumped on and beat until they recanted. Never blame the victim.... unless he is a man.
Feminism has a long track record of stepping all over men. No one can erase that. MRM has learned from that, and contains a large number of men who try very hard to keep the movement on track, who set parameters so that in 50 years, women are not the ones getting the shaft and the cycle starts all over again.
