Survey Finds More Women Try Bisexuality

[D]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050915/ap_on_go_ot/bisexual_women
Survey Finds More Women Try Bisexuality
By MARTHA IRVINE, AP National Writer
Thu Sep 15, 7:50 PM ET

I'm not really surprised.  At least, not that it's now more out in the open.  I'm pretty sure the urges were always there.    Mind, I'm not speaking from *personal* experience...just personal observation.

Either that or a steady stream of propaganda from the media trying to convert society into its mallable puddy.

[FP]

How is giving a man pleasure demeaning?

Well quite. The thinking goes (much supported by various religious attitudes towards sex and/or feminist indoctrination in my experience) that her kneeling before her man, performing oral and looking up to him is "submissive" and since he's looking down on her physically, he is thus also looking down on her intellectually. She's being a "whore" in that position. .

I guess some women do feel that way, which is pretty sad, both for them and their sexual partners.  Other reasons I've heard given are (a) don't like the taste/smell--these women are usually willing to, erm, perform, just not,  :oops: swallow :oops: and (b) an object thrust down her throat triggers her gag reflex, which  is an issue especially with a :oops:  larger guy  :oops: .  I don't really get (a), and I agree with typhonblue if what she was trying to get across is, it's certainly no WORSE than a woman's taste/smell (I think it's better), but (b) can be a legitimate issue.

Well, no doubt some feel that way, what I was saying was that there are actually men out there who feel its demeaning and don't want it done to them.

[typhonblue]

Well, no doubt some feel that way, what I was saying was that there are actually men out there who feel its demeaning and don't want it done to them.

By that logic wouldn't oral sex on a woman be demeaning to men? (Just as a historical note... Ancient Romans actually thought that a man preforming oral sex on a woman was degrading to the man.)

[lkanneg]

Well, no doubt some feel that way, what I was saying was that there are actually men out there who feel its demeaning and don't want it done to them.

:shock:

I'm not saying I don't believe you.  I'm just totally amazed, and I have never encountered such a man nor known any woman who has.  Are you sure there are very many of them..?

[lkanneg]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050915/ap_on_go_ot/bisexual_women
Survey Finds More Women Try Bisexuality
By MARTHA IRVINE, AP National Writer
Thu Sep 15, 7:50 PM ET

I'm not really surprised.  At least, not that it's now more out in the open.  I'm pretty sure the urges were always there.    Mind, I'm not speaking from *personal* experience...just personal observation.

Either that or a steady stream of propaganda from the media trying to convert society into its mallable puddy.

Um, no.  Actually, been out clubbin with the girls on multiple occasions.

[The Biscuit Queen]

Well quite. The thinking goes (much supported by various religious attitudes towards sex and/or feminist indoctrination in my experience) that her kneeling before her man, performing oral and looking up to him is "submissive" and since he's looking down on her physically, he is thus also looking down on her intellectually. She's being a "whore" in that position. .

If he lays down then she is actually above him

[lkanneg]

Well quite. The thinking goes (much supported by various religious attitudes towards sex and/or feminist indoctrination in my experience) that her kneeling before her man, performing oral and looking up to him is "submissive" and since he's looking down on her physically, he is thus also looking down on her intellectually. She's being a "whore" in that position. .

If he lays down then she is actually above him

[Sir Percy]

Take it from an older man. (any way you like). Good sex, really good sex, is an act of worship. Submission to the woman's sexual allure and power is the same for a man as the submission by a woman to the sexual strength and power of the man. It is a dance of devotion. Her scent, her softness, her acceptance is counterpoised by his firmness, his complete focus on her and his giving of himself to her. The rest is just play. Nice play most of the time, mind you.

[The Biscuit Queen]

:1luvu:

If I wasn't married.....

[realman]

"Good sex, really good sex, is an act of worship. Submission to the woman's sexual allure and power is the same for a man as the submission by a woman to the sexual strength and power of the man. It is a dance of devotion. Her scent, her softness, her acceptance is counterpoised by his firmness, his complete focus on her and his giving of himself to her. The rest is just play. Nice play most of the time, mind you."

I'm not that old but yes that's pretty much it... frankly to me it's hardly worth the time and effort if it's not a mutual worship of one another.  Perhaps part of the issue women have then is that women DON"T often worship men in this way? So they see it in terms of dominance, subervience, degradation, etc.? Also with regard to devotion... again, it's hardly worth the time and effort without it...

I also think part of the "double standard" some women have regarding "oral on him vs. oral on me" stems from the desire to have a MAN be "subservient". If it was only about wanting to be 'worshipped" she'd want to reciprocate.

[Sir Percy]

Lets take the thing further into analogy. Church. One can worship in Church. One can also sing and talk, laugh and even 'study'. One can explore nuances of Faith, Trust, Hope and Charity. In the Catholic Mass the deep worship aspect is the central feature with a whole build up to the climax replete with song, and a slow resolution phase. It doesn't all have to be dour and serious.

Sexual play can be fun. One can 'study', know oneself and get to know the 'other'. One can change roles, exchange submissions,  to experience some part of some facets of each other. If boredom sets in it is because the other and oneself has ceased to be interesting, or maybe even threatening. A significant aspect of sex is man and woman knowing themselves through the prism and interaction of the other sex. Faith, Trust, Hope and Charity. Same sex couples miss out on this opportunity, an opportunity which is vital for propelling a human being up his and her spiritual path.

This is one of the most exceptionally evil aspects of Radical Feminism. The destruction of FTHC between the sexes.

[D]

Um, no.  Actually, been out clubbin with the girls on multiple occasions.

Oh, because you've been out clubbin that refutes my theory of the gay agenda pushed forward by the Clinton administration, the United Nations and everyone else with a loud speaker.

[lkanneg]

Um, no.  Actually, been out clubbin with the girls on multiple occasions.

Oh, because you've been out clubbin that refutes my theory of the gay agenda pushed forward by the Clinton administration, the United Nations and everyone else with a loud speaker.

No, but it definitely refutes your theory that the idea that female bisexuality is not only rare, but becoming more and more open, is an artificial construct put forth by the gay-rights political agenda.

Seriously.  Girls, who self-identify as straight and have only romantic relationships with men, can and do get pretty frisky with each other when out drinking and dancing.

[Mr Benn]

No, but it definitely refutes your theory that the idea that female bisexuality is not only rare, but becoming more and more open, is an artificial construct put forth by the gay-rights political agenda.

Seriously.  Girls, who self-identify as straight and have only romantic relationships with men, can and do get pretty frisky with each other when out drinking and dancing.

Therefore are you saying that basically most women are bisexual and its only social pressures that make them tend to seek men for relationships? (I don't use the word romantic, it doesn't seem appropriate for most modern relationships).

[lkanneg]

No, but it definitely refutes your theory that the idea that female bisexuality is not only rare, but becoming more and more open, is an artificial construct put forth by the gay-rights political agenda.

Seriously.  Girls, who self-identify as straight and have only romantic relationships with men, can and do get pretty frisky with each other when out drinking and dancing.

Therefore are you saying that basically most women are bisexual and its only social pressures that make them tend to seek men for relationships? (I don't use the word romantic, it doesn't seem appropriate for most modern relationships).

Most women?  No.  I don't know what the proportion is.  I'd feel comfortable saying "some."  And I used the word "romantic" because that's what I meant--the women I know that do this, have no romantic interest in other women--they don't want to be engaged to  one, sit on the beach in the moonlight talking about their deep emotional passion for one, etc.  However, they do periodically want to have sexual contact with one, especially if they are engaging in inhibition-lowering activities such as drinking and dancing.