The truth about women

Started by Mr Benn, Sep 20, 2005, 04:31 AM

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typhonblue

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Even many/most women themselves admit they are fickle and don't really know what they want.

Is this a good system to base society's future on?

The consumption of the men who excite her clitoris (the thugs) will ruin her.

The eventual capitulation of the nice guys into molding themselves to her designs for a passive chump to marry will result in her becomming bored with him and divorcing him; ruining him.

This situation cannot continue.


It shouldn't continue. But crappy situations have a tendancy to cling like... well... crap.

All I can offer is some advice... at this point in history men seem to need to get away from women more then ever before and define what it is to be a man, absent any intrusion from desire of women or women's desires.

When they do this, the reward will be true attractiveness to women because they will be able to love women without loosing their identities as men.

Mr Benn

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When they do this, the reward will be true attractiveness to women because they will be able to love women without loosing their identities as men.


I agree, and this is what we are aiming for with the MGTOW movement. But even if a man achieved this happy state, it would not negate the fact that:

1. The woman hes interested in might have been banged by every bad-boy in town, maybe had an abortion or two, and a number of years in the cut and thrust of some company, all resulting in her being hardened, cold, calculating and not able to untrust his soul to, or to form stable sexual intimacy with.

2. The entitlement mentality may still leave her with a constant roving eye for the bigger, better deal.

3. The marriage and family court laws are still stacked against men.
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typhonblue

Unless men want to adopt the attitudes of martial cultures like Japan and Sparta... that love of women is inferior to love of men, I don't see a solution involving the choices of men.

The choices of women, maybe.

Mr Benn

One guy on my forum makes the argument that the root of all this, and hence the thing that ultimately needs to be tackled in order to create long lasting change is the humanities. The average man did not see litterature as important enough to defend, hence it was left wide open to attack from the feminists and post-modernists. The result of their assualt has been that, in a sense, our cultures are more sexually repressed than ever: our sexualities are reduced to bedroom mechanics, and we are forced to hide our different male and female sexual natures in everyday life.

When this material was presented on another forum, one guy made this response:

And on and on it goes. It's incredibly easy to get other guys girlfriends and wives, disturbingly easy. I don't do it because its another form of manipulation, turning man against man, brother against brother. I have no respect for guys who use their 'success' with women to stomp on other guys. The mistake many guys make when they go for a wife or a girlfriend is that they think they are 'hot stuff' because they are getting these 'taken women' but in reality the woman is often using him, usually to belittle the husband or boyfriend she's with (or to make other women jealous). When couples 'wife swap', it is often the wife trying to out-manipulate the other wife's husband (a contest of who can steal the other husband's love). This is Female Game.

But take this initial post and look at it culturally. If a wife takes her kids out and the husband cheats, it is rightfully seen as wrong and bad. However, if the husband takes her kids out and the wife cheats, it is called The Bridges of Madison County, a great best seller! If a woman seduces and makes an arch bishop breaks his vows, it is called The Thornbirds, another great best seller! What about a movie where the woman gets to act like a *****, spit on culture, cheat on her fiancee, abandon her family, to run off with a guy with no job? And to add insult to injury, when the girl dies where does she spend heaven with? She chooses not to be with her husband but rather with the one time lover! It is called Titanic, the best selling movie ever.

What is sad is that in trying to help your fellow man see the truth, they just grip their horse tighter in fear. The men start to turn against you, saying, "How dare you speak like that!" And once they get married, what happens? His entire life gets shunted into the material utopia. New cars for the wife, new house, bigger house, endless remodeling.

Think about how much wasted talent there is pursuing women and pleasing the wife. It didn't use to always be this way. A century or so ago, there were much tighter measures on such flippant behavior. If a single woman got pregnant, she would move away from the community. Today, that single mother is enshrined as a goddess.
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typhonblue

But I don't think it's just women's sense of sexual entitlement that's the problem. As the author of that post said, it's also material entitlement. In fact, it's women's entitlement in general that's the problem.

And that was a problem a hundred years ago as well.

In fact I read a court case in the 1600s... a father was denying his daughter her inheritance because she was a "fornicator"-- she took two men as lovers and had never married -- she took her father to court and won her inheritance and social opinion was on *her* side at the time.

But the question is, how do we successfully change a sense of entitlement in women?

Mr Benn

Women's materialism is putting a lot of stress on our families, worklives, economies, cultures and probably the planet itself.

This is largely hidden because we are brainwashed with the mantra:

Men are materialistic, women are spiritual!

What a load of shit, the opposite is true. Women are interested in material things, men are the true absent minded, spiritual types, forever chasing the unseen patterns that underly our reality. A woman is not interested in the secrets of the universe, she is interested in the secrets of her next door neighbour (loosely speaking).

People have base tendencies that will never been eliminated. But the point is that when there are societal systems and codes of conduct we are able to manage them, and harness them for positive ends. The current system just makes them worse.
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Roy

TB --

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Stay in the game till you've done enough boozing, slutting and drugging to satisfy yourself, then take one of the "nice guys" as a security blanket before you hit the attractiveness brick wall.


My take on this thread is that it has paid only a little attention to what damage people are doing to themselves by whoring around (women and men) and then suddenly expecting that (1) some virtuous non-slutty person will discover you as her/his "soulmate'; and (2) that even if that were to happen, you might actually re-connect with your own soul, your own quest for a meaningful life, your own lost and tragic skanky self.

This is typically where women play the "but you must respect me" card, even though they do not respect themselves.

Let's just cut to the chase --- once you have defined yourself as a sexual commodity, as an object to be fucked, then you have pretty much screwed yourself, right?

Existentially speaking?
It's a terrible thing ... living in fear." (Roy - hunted replicant. "Blade Runner.")

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Motherhood confers a lot of benefits on women... a definite increase in respectability and status as well as exclusive access to shaping the unconscious mores and loyalties of the next generation.


Not always. As a 19 year old single mother, I got contempt far more than respect from people. Not saying I didn't deserve it, but just saying that popping out a kids is not always a ticket to wealth and fame. As far as the second assertation, you are right, as is a father who is around the kids (although that ability is not always a given or his choice)
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There are always two extremes....the truth lies in the middle.

lkanneg

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TB --

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Stay in the game till you've done enough boozing, slutting and drugging to satisfy yourself, then take one of the "nice guys" as a security blanket before you hit the attractiveness brick wall.


My take on this thread is that it has paid only a little attention to what damage people are doing to themselves by whoring around (women and men) and then suddenly expecting that (1) some virtuous non-slutty person will discover you as her/his "soulmate'; and (2) that even if that were to happen, you might actually re-connect with your own soul, your own quest for a meaningful life, your own lost and tragic skanky self.

This is typically where women play the "but you must respect me" card, even though they do not respect themselves.

Let's just cut to the chase --- once you have defined yourself as a sexual commodity, as an object to be fucked, then you have pretty much screwed yourself, right?

Existentially speaking?


Pretty good summation.
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