Lynndie Says "Love Made Me Do It!"

[Roy]

The dominitrix of Abu Ghraib has apparently decided to base her legal defense on her victimhood within the Evil Patriarchy, and the fear and terror she experienced in Iraq, alleging that if she had disobeyed her evil boyfriend's orders, then she would have been at extreme risk.

This is a very clever variation on the Battered Woman Defense, straight out of the feminist DV Industry, seeking to paint dear Ms. England as a victim of male oppression and an abused woman who reacted out of self-defense.

In other words, she tortured Iraqui men because an American man forced her to, through psychological coercion and as yet undefined dire threats.

In other, other words, she had no choice.

What is N.O.W.'s position on this legal defense strategy that defines a female soldier as an infant and a moron?

"FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) -- Lynndie England's lawyer said the Army private was a lovestruck woman who posed for photos of detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib prison to please her boyfriend, an older soldier who outranked her."

Story at --
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/22/abuse.england.ap/index.html

[TestSubject]

She should die.  I wasn't too awfully concerned about her at first, but if she's going to do what she did then bullshit like this, she should just drop dead.

[slayton]

Haha,

You know, when Ms. England did her dirty deed, someone at the ifeminists (or was it here? Not sure...) posted this sarcastic comment -and I qoute-

Patriarchy made her do it

Of course, back then, the statement above sounded funny, but I obviously laughed at it too soon...

[The Biscuit Queen]

The sad thing is, that now women are too weak to have this job. Don't they see that for every Lydie who cries "poor me, I am just a weak woman!" there is a man who sees women as inferior? Why shouldn't he, since that is what she is saying herself!

If I were a feminist I would be outraged at this. I am a MRA and I am outraged, but from another perspective. I am pissed that yet again it is a man who is responsible for a woman's actions.

If she is a capable adult, she needs to stand up and be accountable. Where the HELL is her personal pride? Dignity? She screwed up! Just admit it already, take your medicine, and get on with life.

If she is but a lovestruck child, who put a gun in her hand and shipped her off to war? And they wonder why women are not welcomed on the front lines.  :roll:

[Roy]

BQ --

The sad thing is, that now women are too weak to have this job.

You know, as cynical as I am (not that anyone's noticed) about women --

I have to disagree.

There is actually no inherent "weakness" in women. (Leaving Schopenhauer aside for the moment...)

The appearance of weakness is only because women have bought into feminism's 24 x 7 "victimhood" mentality.

You cannot have any integrity or honor or agency if you define yourself as a victim.

When women give up being victims of the imaginary Evil Patriarchy, I suspect we will again see the flowering of feminine (not feminist) genius.

I hope to live so long to witness something like that small miracle....

[The Biscuit Queen]

Yeah I know, I was being cynical myself. I know they are not too weak to do it, it just seems some lack the moral fiber to just own up. Are we to trust that she would not have spilled the beans under torture? She can't even deal with a fair trial without cracking.  :roll:

[FP]

Hey, she was just following orders dontcha know.

[Roy]

Well, unless her eventual sentence forbids a book contract, Lynndie is just chllin' in the certainty that she will sell her story to TV, print, and DVD.

Ten years in jail for a $20-million deal?

Who says crime doesn't pay?   :cry:

[Sir Percy]

Can you just imagine the perplexity of a enemy who captures one such as she, in wartime. She'd give her name, rank and number and the excuse that going to war wasn't her idea, she was doing it just to please her boyfriend. !!!

[The Biscuit Queen]

Maybe that is our secret weapon. She gets captured, and yaps so long and loud that it causes hemorages in the captors which leads to the breakdown of the system?  Just follow the sound of wailing as grown men fall to their knees in fear and pain.

Boy I am in a weird mood tonight.

[neonsamurai]

The Queen of Biscuits said:

Don't they see that for every Lydie who cries "poor me, I am just a weak woman!" there is a man who sees women as inferior? Why shouldn't he, since that is what she is saying herself!

Good point. I've never thought of it like that before. If women like this are going to keep using the victim card then we're getting fed conflicting information. You can't have it both ways.

[Wookie]

I have seen this too, I have aways seen women as my equals but more and more I see articles about women claiming they were controled or minipulated by men, and therefore less guilty, this even makes me think, well if women are that easyly controled can they be trusted in possitions of responciblity and power?

What I know is that it is complete bullshit, and what feminism has done is say with one side of their mouths Women are mens equals and out the other side of their mouth they say Women are weak little victims controled by men, which ever suits thier needs at that time.

Your even have the likes of the "Strong and empowerd" Amanda in her blogg complaining how her boyfriend controled her, in order to get the victim sypathy from her band of sisters.

Wookie

[lkanneg]

:shock:

Defense lawyers come up with the most amazing explanations for their clients' actions sometimes.  Even more amazingly, sometimes they work.

[The Biscuit Queen]

It isn't just defense lawyers, unfortunately.

[Wookie]

Defense lawyers come up with the most amazing explanations for their clients' actions sometimes. Even more amazingly, sometimes they work.

There is anouther example of female privalige for you.

Women can fall back on the tried and trusted defence of "Little bitty me couldn't have done that, those horrible men made me do it" Even women that are in the military can use it :roll:

Wookie