VAWA Passes in the Senate Today!

Started by Roy, Oct 04, 2005, 07:31 PM

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Roy

I subscribe to several feminist press release sites, because they seem to be mysteriously better connected to our Congress than any MRA organization that I know.

So here's today's latest e-mail from the ever-lovely Allison at the National Network to End Domestic Violence.

( I could not find any reference to this bill passing on the U.S. Senate's official web site.)

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Tuesday, October 4, 2005 5:36 PM

The Violence Against Women Act of 2005 was just passed by unanimous consent in the Senate.

This unanimous support of VAWA is tremendous and we thank all Senators for their work to bring VAWA to the floor!  Chairman Specter and Senator Biden and their staff really pulled out all the stops to make this happen.  Many Senators set aside other pressing issues to move VAWA forward, particularly Senator Landrieu, and we thank them and the Republican and Democrat Senate Leadership for making VAWA a priority.  

This was really down to the wire, and truly all the credit goes to YOU who mobilized your grassroots, who made calls yourself, who spoke on behalf of all the victims who have been silenced.

The versions of VAWA passed in the House (HR 3402) and the Senate (S 1197) are different, and now must go to conference where the differences between them will be resolved.  We will need your voices again in the coming months to ensure that needs of victims are met in the final VAWA that is signed into law!!

Thank you again for all the amazing work you do.

Allison

Allison Randall
Public Policy Specialist
National Network to End Domestic Violence
660 Pennsylvania Ave. SE, Suite 303
Washington, DC  20003
202-543-5566 (phone)
202-543-5626 (fax)
[email protected]  
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dr e

Here we go again. :madshake:
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TerryGale

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The versions of VAWA passed in the House (HR 3402) and the Senate (S 1197) are different, and now must go to conference where the differences between them will be resolved. We will need your voices again in the coming months to ensure that needs of victims are met in the final VAWA that is signed into law!!
Not a totally done deal yet...  By presenting it as such, they hope to suck the wind out of those who would see it amended - and - that the public will blink while they keep lobbying.

dr e

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I subscribe to several feminist press release sites, because they seem to be mysteriously better connected to our Congress than any MRA organization that I know.


Yeah, they've got money. :(
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Roy

I have a mini-Dr. Evil tangent to my personality, and I have put that pit bull alter-ego to good use lately to daily research what I can find out about VAWA.

Not to be pointing fingers, but how come RADAR did not post this development first?

I have sent RADAR every nuance of this stealth VAWA reauthorization that I have come across, and they still seem to believe they have achieved some kind of "victory."

Is RADAR actually just some frat boys in the D.C. area?

Dr. E. .... you might wish to start a "Strategic Ring" that is not about personalities debating various topics of import.

Might it be time to try to examine why the Men's Right's Movement is already facing extinction in the U.S. political sphere?
It's a terrible thing ... living in fear." (Roy - hunted replicant. "Blade Runner.")

SecondToDie

Why was it unanimous this time?  I'm pretty sure that when it was first passed in 1994, many Republicans voted against it.

TerryGale

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I have a mini-Dr. Evil tangent to my personality, and I have put that pit bull alter-ego to good use lately to daily research what I can find out about VAWA.

Not to be pointing fingers, but how come RADAR did not post this development first?

I have sent RADAR every nuance of this stealth VAWA reauthorization that I have come across, and they still seem to believe they have achieved some kind of "victory."

Is RADAR actually just some frat boys in the D.C. area?

Dr. E. .... you might wish to start a "Strategic Ring" that is not about personalities debating various topics of import.

Might it be time to try to examine why the Men's Right's Movement is already facing extinction in the U.S. political sphere?
Can you post or PM links, Roy?  Anything that might be postable to the MND page??
I got this one.. http://www.nnedv.org/default.asp?Page=82  anything else?

I think many were thinking this would not come back up until the 5th.

dr e

2nd I think you are wrong about that.  There were only a handful of people who have ever voted against VAWA in both 1994 and in 2000.  Last summer I contacted each of the remaining members who voted against VAWA and none of them wanted to "remember" their nay vote.   :roll:   I'm telling you the fems have a lip lock on things.
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Roy

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I think many were thinking this would not come back up until the 5th.


It's time to really reflect upon how badly the Men's Movement has been "played" in this VAWA 2005 reauthorization, and all the supposedly virile resistance to its passage.

I personally do not like being played.

I suspect my comrades do not find it enjoyable either.
It's a terrible thing ... living in fear." (Roy - hunted replicant. "Blade Runner.")

IndianaJones

Come on guys, what did you expect? We knew that it was more likely to pass than not!

In 2000, the vote was like 200-3 or something in favor of the law, do you really think that we made THAT much of a difference?

Learn from our mistakes and hit it harder next time!

Just because we are the underdogs doesn't mean we won't ever win, remember William Wallace in braveheart? or T.E. Lawrence in Lawrence of Arabia? or Colonel Sheers in Bridge to River Kwai? It only takes ONE, and i repeat ONE person to bring it all down!

Roy

Indiana Jones ---

Nice cinematic references to heroes on the screen.

My personal favorite is Marlon Brando in Apolcalypse Now, i.e Col. Kurtz --

"The horror, the horror.."

Good enough review of the passage of VAWA 2005, don't you agree?
It's a terrible thing ... living in fear." (Roy - hunted replicant. "Blade Runner.")

IndianaJones

Roy-

     Yes, and William Wallace's famous "FFFFFFFFFRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM" before he got his head chopped off by the feminist pigs.

Darth Sidious

I had foreseen it would pass, and I am not really surprised it received unanimous support; not because it is a good bill, but because of the name of the bill, Violence Against Women Act.  Who seriously wants to be considered someone who voted against fighting violence against women?  Political Correctness has blinded so many people.  The truth has been made irrelevant.

Do you think Bush will veto this bill?   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :evil:

Of course, he will not veto it; so far as I know, he has never vetoed a bill.  He will certainly never veto a bill called the Violence Against Women Act which received unanimous support in the Senate.

The fraud and corruption of our political system, which much of our youth have been indoctrinated to believe is the only form of good government, is displayed for all to see.  But there will still be many who will cling to the belief that things will improve, that democracy is the only way, etc.  Fine, if there are people who insist on believing that, I am not going to stop them; however, I will not cease speaking out how wrong-headed such sentiments are.  Our governments are selling us out to establish a world government.  Nations will continue surrendering power to "international institutions" from which will rise a tyranny the likes of which the world has never before seen.

MRAs, if you are not having much success in convincing a national government of the worthiness of your cause, then you will certainly have no success in influencing the inevitable world government.

Roy

Indiana,

I totally agree with your choice of actual heroes. ( (And Braveheart is a great film.)

But from what I observe in our Congresspersons today on their VAWA vote, I am more inclined to recall the scene in Last Tango in Paris when Marlon Brando asks Maria Schneider to coat her fingers in butter and then stick them up his ass.

It's very erotic.

As long as you understand the politics of the moment ....
It's a terrible thing ... living in fear." (Roy - hunted replicant. "Blade Runner.")

IndianaJones

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MRAs, if you are not having much success in convincing a national government of the worthiness of your cause, then you will certainly have no success in influencing the inevitable world government.



        I think the house DID hear our side of the story, but like you mentioned, they won't change it because of political correctness. I mean, what do you expect the house/senate to do? put a speech that says "MRAs, we heard you?"

        We must influence and change society before we can change political correctness. But i assure you this is not a lost cause. The fact of my existence ALONE told you something has changed, that i ahve gone from an unsuspecting 16 year old boy to a MRAs armed and dangerous.



        I shall be the Indiana Jones vs the Feminist Thugges in the Temple of Doom.[/quote]

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