KKK march in Toledo similar to Take Back the Night marches

Started by PaulGuelph, Oct 16, 2005, 07:37 PM

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PaulGuelph

The KKK are marching against Black crime. Feminists march against male violence.

The KKK focuses on white victims of black crimes. Feminists marches focus on female victims of male violence.

Organizers of the women's marches are employed in shelters that actively discriminate against men and older boys.

KKK believes in white superiority, while feminists believe in female superiority.

It is the same thing.
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SecondToDie

I don't think all feminists can be compared to the KKK and white supremaicists, only radical feminists like Andrea Dworkin (may she burn in hell) and Catharine MacKinnon.

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I thought they were Neo Nazis, and actually called themselves Nationalist Socialists?


And, the Take Back the Night rallies are modeled after the Nazi rallies.  Hitler liked the nightlife.

TestSubject

I know this sounds strange, but I think the KKK has more in common with MRAs than feminists.  The NAACP has more in common with feminists.

Really, how often do we hear about white victims of black crimes?  Nope, if race is involved it's always the reverse.  Look at the whitey-hatin' that started up over the Katrina.

I can't say I have animosity toward white supremacists anymore.

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I know this sounds strange, but I think the KKK has more in common with MRAs than feminists.  The NAACP has more in common with feminists.

Really, how often do we hear about white victims of black crimes?  Nope, if race is involved it's always the reverse.  Look at the whitey-hatin' that started up over the Katrina.

I can't say I have animosity toward white supremacists anymore.



I think that's exactly what they wanted.

The KKK were actually Democrats.  

I have  a theory about the 'Erecting the 4th Riech'..   It goes a little bit like this.  After years and years of poking and proding the white male christian the white male christians finally don't give a shit about other races and rise up and crush all minorities, totally ethnically cleanse America and possible the world.

Sound crazy?  Well, your statement makes me wonder.  I'm not calling you a Nazi, or a KKK man, or that you don't have a right to your opinion, I'm just saying that it's awefully funny that the same people who financed the Nazis, now finance the other side so to speak.  

Is there method to their madness?  

Since they control the media, the courts, the schools and the banks, hey, I think it's possible.

SecondToDie

I just noticed something interesting: if someone hates men or whites, they are considered far-left, but if they hate women or blacks, they are considered far-right.  I'm starting to think that the political spectrum is more like a circle than a spectrum.

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Quentin0352

People have a right t say what ever they want no matter how stupid. The problem is when others try to deny them that right and then we have violence. Of course the left talks a lot about violence and ending it but they are pretty quick to try and shout out any conservative speakers on a college campus so that they are denied their rights and even threaten them. The KKK and the rest are also equally threatened though you notice their opposite members in society like the NOI are allowed to speak and given credibility. As my black instructor in Police Academy pointed out, he had no problems working with the racist jerks like the Klan, they were always non-violent at least when they did their marches. It was always the protesters at the rallies and marches that cause them all the problems and used it as an excuse to attack businesses and anyone white just for their color.

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The KKK are marching against Black crime. Feminists march against male violence.

The KKK focuses on white victims of black crimes. Feminists marches focus on female victims of male violence.

Organizers of the women's marches are employed in shelters that actively discriminate against men and older boys.

KKK believes in white superiority, while feminists believe in female superiority.

It is the same thing.


I agree they are similar when you compare them in this way.

However, there is one key difference:-

The KKK do not have full, legal and official approval by the government like feminists do (see VAWA as a good example).  Also, see how far a magazine/news channel goes if it starts to come out and says it supports the KKK - it would go out of business in a heartbeat.  If they show approval of feminism, people have the notion that they're caring and sharing.  

Both are hate movements, focussed on a specific target though.  One is approved by society as being positive, the other is correctly viewed for what it is - a hate movement.  Both are actually hate movements.

Darth Sidious

Quote from: "TestSubject"
I know this sounds strange, but I think the KKK has more in common with MRAs than feminists.  The NAACP has more in common with feminists.

Really, how often do we hear about white victims of black crimes?  Nope, if race is involved it's always the reverse.  Look at the whitey-hatin' that started up over the Katrina.

I can't say I have animosity toward white supremacists anymore.


I love your honesty, TestSubject.  I agree with the comparisons you made.

LibertyUNH

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I can't say I have animosity toward white supremacists anymore.


To be honest African Americans suffered much much more then their share due to racism in USA.  And they continue to suffer quite disproportionally at the hands of US legal system.

The states where anti-black and anti-semitic racism was the worse now are also the worst for men.  Like Texas.  When human rights are not valued no ones rights are valued.

Darth Sidious

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And they continue to suffer quite disproportionally at the hands of US legal system.


Are you blaming this on racism?

Just maybe the problem is not what whitey is doing but the poor decisions of more than a few young black men.  When one is into selling drugs and participating in gang activity, one is likely to end up in trouble with the law.

bluetrigger

I don't think the MRM has anything in common with the KKK or Neo-Nazis.  These are both based on very marginal and extreme ideologies--which have been tested by history and failed. I don't see any hard and fast ideology in the MRM. Btw, both, as far as I have been able to tell, are heavy on the chivalry and tend to see women as superior to men.

These are archaic movements that attract,imo, disturbed people.

Comparing the MRM with these groups is like comparing stars with Christmas tree lights--any similarity, let alone commonality, is purely superficial.
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LibertyUNH

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Just maybe the problem is not what whitey is doing but the poor decisions of more than a few young black men.  When one is into selling drugs and participating in gang activity, one is likely to end up in trouble with the law.


African Americans get 40% longer sentences then European Americans for the same crime.  All disadvantaged groups -- minorities, men, poor people, victims of child abuse commit more crime then others.

Galt

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African Americans get 40% longer sentences then European Americans for the same crime.  All disadvantaged groups -- minorities, men, poor people, victims of child abuse commit more crime then others.


You probably know, LibertyUNH, that there are now federal sentencing guidelines and sentencing guidelines in a lot of individual states.

That means a judge has to go through a checklist (including priors, severity of the crime etc.) and then give a sentence within the stipulated range, or he has to really justify why he went outside of the guidelines.

IF blacks get longer sentences than whites for the same crime, it could also be explained by more prior offenses or things like that, in which case it's not unfair.  But I agree that prosecutorial discretion could also provide a bias, in other words one race may be characteristically charged with a higher offense to start with, or be given less of a chance to plea-bargain it down.

I think the latter thing is why men get harsher sentences than women - prosecutors may start with a charge of manslaughter against a woman, whereas they may charge a man with 2nd degree murder for basically the same actions, and women have "battered woman" defenses available that men don't have.

Who knows.

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