Anti Amber Article

Started by Amber, Aug 13, 2003, 08:47 PM

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Amber

I think you know you are doing something right when there are entire articles dedicated to proving you wrong.

http://www.quorumcall.com/content/contributors/catherine_corey/081403.html

"Amber's claims disgust me. And with everything I've experienced, she had better believe I don't throw that word around lightly."

The girl mostly "deconstructs" my argument, i.e. tries to prove where I am "logically" wrong, while never really providing an argument or ideal of her own to bring to the table.  

The whole thing greatly amuses me.  8)
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

AnubisRox

You know you're doing something right when they're so quick to try to shoot you down. I found this article more amusing than anything. You know what would make her blow her top? Quote some Ayn Rand! :-)

Keep it up, you're doing a great job!
ell she turned me into a NEWT!! A newt?! Er..., well I got better.

Amber

*blush*  Thx Anubis.
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

RockyMountainMan

Congratulations!  You've gained enough notariety that you are now being publically attacked.  Try not to let it go to your head.
Give me liberty or give me death.

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Tact is for those lacking sufficient wit for sarcasm.

Amber

he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

dr e

Good going Amber!  It didn't look like she had much of an argument against you.  Oh boo-hoo, you contradicted yourself, oh boo-hoo masculinity is not what you think it is,  oh boo-hoo you don't REALLY know about DV and the female victims.  Not much in terms of confronting your arguments.  

I was tickled about her mention of DV and how she tried to paint you as being insensitive to female victims.  Did you say they were undeserving in some way??  Anyone who sticks up for men must be insensitive to female victims of DV, right?  LOL.  

Perhaps we should invite her to join us here.  Maybe she could tell us all about her sensitivity to male victims of DV.
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

napnip

Ms. Corey performed what I like to call an "Internet drive-by shooting".  Only she's shooting blanks.

She quickly entered a debate, fired off what appears to be some devastating ammunition (notice that I said "appears"), and then quickly exits.

Firstly, notice what she said about Ayn Rand and Objectivism:

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For those of you who don't adhere to such marginal and debunked philosophies as objectivism...


So how has Objectivism been debunked?  By whom?  As Ms. Rand would say, BLANK-OUT!  Ms. Corey hopes the reader will just naturally assume that Objectivism has been debunked simply because Corey says it has, thus taking Corey's word for it.  Yet Ms. Corey fails to tell the reader that Objectivism has been the topic of perpetual debate since Rand envisioned it all those years ago.  For every "point" that statists offer, Objectivists have always been quick to offer a "counter-point".  In truth, I suspect that Corey hasn't actually read much, if any, of Rand's works.  Corey knows just enough about Ojectivism to get herself into trouble, but not enough to actually "debunk" it herself.

Doubt me?  I'll wager good money that if Corey were to come here and debate Objectivism with Amber and myself, she would ultimately resort to arguments like "You just don't have compassion for your fellow man!" or "What about the poor?"

Ms. Corey wants the reader to believe that feminism isn't really anti-men, and in her individual case, that may be true.  However, I suspect that Ms. Corey, indeed all feminists, would get nauseous at the thought of having to acknowledge a man as the "father" of feminism.  But such is the case.  Because if it weren't for Immanuel Kant, feminism wouldn't have a leg to stand on.  (Of course, the "leg" he contributed to them is a hollowed out wooded leg eaten away at by disease and rot.)

Secondly, notice the question Ms. Corey asks:

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Do you actually believe that men and women abuse each other with the same brutality?


Ah, Ms. Corey, you're not addressing the point that Amber made.  Amber pointed out that the same research method which resulted in the "1 in 4 women are raped" stat was also used in surveying males.  Not only that, but the same definition of rape was used!  By that very same definition, 1 in 4 males have been raped!  Additionally, men and women do initiate aggression against each other at roughly the same rates.  Granted, women generally suffer greater bodily injury, but that is only true insofar as men are willing to tell an emergency room doctor how his injuries really happened.  I don't know of too many men who will tell a doctor that his wife broke his ribs.  The fact remains that women initiate aggression about as much as men do.

What Ms. Corey's argument ultimately boils down to is "men are big and tough and can take it."  What she fails to answer is "Why should they have to take it?"  BLANK-OUT.

So, Ms. Corey, I challenge you to step up.  Drop by http://www.standyourground sometime and debate us on the issues.  If you're really right and can "debunk" us, then you should be happy to do so.  After all, we're ignorant, right?  Don't you want us to join the ranks of the enlightened?  However, be prepared to defend your arguments.  Because you damn well better believe we'll be offering some "counter-points".
i] We drank our toast to innocence,
We drank our toast to now.
We tried to reach beyond the emptiness,
But neither one knew how. [/i]

D

"Wow, what a light weight response and to even use Webster's dictionary for definitions is ludicrous! This gal does not now anything about debate. Amber should be proud. This is just the same "double speak" that the NOW uses. Ho hum!"


From Matt Fitzgerald

Amber

Hehe, good old Fritz.

Quote from: "napnip"
So, Ms. Corey, I challenge you to step up. Drop by http://www.standyourground sometime and debate us on the issues.



I think you forgot that she already "dismissed" me, lol.

I'm also one of the most dangerous people in the world.

I talked to my mom about this.  She thinks the girl is a rape victim.  I believe she is yet another girl hurt in her personal life, in which feminists took and redirected that anger to where they want that anger to be.  

The girl is a political thug.  There is little doubt in my mind that she is younger than me.  No person older than me, with an established career, would sign their name to that chaotic rant.  

The older feminists aren't willing to step up to the plate, but these young, hurt girls are.  They are ready and willing.  I feel more compassion and pity for her, than anything.
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Analog Worms

Quote from: "Amber"
I talked to my mom about this.  She thinks the girl is a rape victim.  I believe she is yet another girl hurt in her personal life, in which feminists took and redirected that anger to where they want that anger to be.


Is your mum anti-feminist too?  :D  :D  :D
url=http://theafa.tk]Anti-Feminist Army[/url]

They call him the wanderer. Moving from one message board to the next. Just looking for a place to call home.

Amber

Not really.
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

Analog Worms

Quote from: "Amber"
Not really.


Then go sit her down and explain the evils of feminism or I'll put her on my AFA hitlist....  :roll:
url=http://theafa.tk]Anti-Feminist Army[/url]

They call him the wanderer. Moving from one message board to the next. Just looking for a place to call home.

Amber

My mom isn't so bad.  She doesn't spend more than she earns.  You can't complain.

Pretentious feminists on the other hand ... :roll:
he men's movement is a hate movement.  

What feminism is to men; the men's rights movement is to women.

Men's rights activists blame misandry for all their problems in the same way that feminists blame the patriarchy.

The only thing men's rights activists are good at is abusing women.  

And you can quote me on that.  :D

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