Women's Institute consulted on nuclear waste disposal

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hurkle

Oct 31, 2005, 11:23 PM
Just picked this up:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/nuclear/article/0,2763,1605259,00.html

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WI asked for views in survey on disposal of nuclear waste

David Adam, environment correspondent
Monday October 31, 2005
The Guardian

Some members have stripped naked for a charity calendar but now the Women's Institute has been charged with addressing a more serious matter: how to handle thousands of tons of radioactive nuclear waste.

The WI is among a host of groups asked by a government committee to weigh up the various ways of safely disposing of the UK's store of lethal radioactive waste. The results of the public discussions will feed into the committee's final advice to ministers next year, a key step in the decision over whether to build new nuclear reactors in Britain.

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Gordon MacKerron, chairman of the committee on radioactive waste management, said: "This is an issue that affects the entire country. The views of the public are very important and combined with detailed scientific considerations will help us find a solution."

To guide public discussion, the committee has produced a booklet that introduces options and the criteria on which they should be evaluated. Professor MacKerron said: "The guide is designed for groups of people to get together, whether in a school, village hall or the local pub, to discuss the subject. You do not have to have any specialist knowledge on radioactive waste to take part."

More than 1,700 copies have been sent to groups including schools and councils. But the move has fuelled criticism that the committee is pursuing public consultation at the expense of expert advice. Senior scientists at the Royal Society and the House of Lords science and technology select committee have expressed concern over the committee's work and two members have quit in protest over how it ignored scientific advice.

John Large, an independent nuclear consultant, said: "This is public consultation gone bananas. The disposal of radioactive waste is extremely complex and you have to make sure what you're going to do is technically possible."

The committee has four options for the public to consider, including burying the waste deep underground or keeping it in specialist facilities at the surface. Prof MacKerron said: "We have another process for getting the best technical information together and there will be some way we will combine that with the best of the consultation." The government has said it first wants to solve what to do with nuclear waste before it builds more reactors. Some 470,000 cubic metres of radioactive waste are stored.


So let's not ask the scientists... let's ask the public.[/quote]
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Bilbo

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Oct 31, 2005, 11:34 PM
I eagerly await the WI's undoubtedly well-informed response...

"How women are unfairly targeted by nuclear waste."

I'm quite serious.

retch..
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Sir Percy

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Oct 31, 2005, 11:39 PM
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Prof MacKerron said: "We have another process for getting the best technical information together and there will be some way we will combine that with the best of the consultation."


Sounds reasonable to me. I have no problem with public consultation on matters of importance.
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hurkle

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Oct 31, 2005, 11:43 PM
Quote from: "Sir Percy"
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Prof MacKerron said: "We have another process for getting the best technical information together and there will be some way we will combine that with the best of the consultation."


Sounds reasonable to me. I have no problem with public consultation on matters of importance.


Absolutely. I agree with this. But the part that worries me is:
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Senior scientists at the Royal Society and the House of Lords science and technology select committee have expressed concern over the committee's work and two members have quit in protest over how it ignored scientific advice.
: How many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A: THAT'S NOT FUNNY!

Men's Rights Activist

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Nov 01, 2005, 12:30 AM
Here's a more reliable place :eekeek: for them to get advice, :rolling_eyes:  than from the gender :propeller:  feminists.
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becksbolero

#5
Nov 01, 2005, 12:45 AM
Quote from: "Bilbo"
I eagerly await the WI's undoubtedly well-informed response...

"How women are unfairly targeted by nuclear waste."

I'm quite serious.

retch..


If I wasn't laughing. I'd be crying. Your probably fuckin right.
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Wookie

#6
Nov 01, 2005, 02:26 AM
I too see no problem here in relation to what is a public consultation.

MRA Wrote:
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Here's a more reliable place  for them to get advice,  than from the gender  feminists.


The Womans Institute is not a feminist organisation as far as I know, I have worked with them and have never got any impression that they are feminiists, in fact (in my local area) they are made up of your more conservative / traditional type of women. They carry out a lot of good community work locally and never do i see any gender prefrences by them. I suppose that they are the female version of the Masons (without the ceremonies)

http://www.womens-institute.co.uk/

Wookie
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TerryGale

#7
Nov 01, 2005, 03:00 AM
Oh my!!  Something tells me we'd be as well off consulting Madame Alicia...

Seriously, I suspect that someone  in gov't suggested bringing in the WI because of women's "special" perspective "for the children."  Not to mention their desire for political legitimacy...  Didn't this group come up here at SYG several months ago?  Maybe the biggest thing they'd done was raise money to build themselves a building with a library/speakers room?

In the US, the "community hot button" is the disposal of outdated WWII nerve gas and mustard gas...  It's been an on-going "hot button" in a community near me for awhile.  Just this past week, there was a problem in Indiana...  Nerve Agent Destruction Halted in Ind. After 500-Gallon Wastewater Spill...  

Gov't will take heat either way...  If the scientists and army plan everything with no community input, people will scream (they've got to live in those communities when something goes wrong).  If the gov't asks for community input early on, who knows what will be suggested...  

Maybe someone's hoping for a movement calling for cities to declare themselves "nuclear free zones."  That was popular in the US in the 1980's.  Of course Europe depends more on nuclear power than the US.  But don't mind me..  I don't live in the UK and haven't slept yet...
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