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Started by blackmanx, Nov 10, 2005, 03:30 PM

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blackmanx

I have a question.


I've spoken to dozens of men about men's rights and all that. Some of the most educated and intelligent men I've met were gay and bisexual men. A few of them were quite sympathetic to the plight of men in America.   I  made  sure  that   they  understood  that  men's  issues   are  a concern  for  ALL  men,  regardless  of  color,  background,  profession,  religion  or  orientation.   Most  of them seemed  to  get  the  message.



More than a few of them asked me what they could do to help.
I told them about MRA-friendly sites such as www.mensactivism.org and www.trueequality.com I wonder, would MRAs be welcoming to MRA-friendly men who just happen to be gay or bi ?  I  feel  that  in  order  for  the  MRAs  to  move  forward,  they  need  to  grow  in  number  and  also  be  united.  


If  men  from  all  races,  backgrounds  and  lifestyles  united and  demanded   JUSTICE   from  the  misandrist   Justice  System,  we
would  be  a  force  to  be  reckoned  with.


What  do  you  think  ?
y book, Men's Rights Activists.

http://www.lulu.com/content/418976

slayton

I don't have a problem with this (someone being gay - or Portugese, for that matter:)), but then again, I myself am "just" a MRA-friendly man, not a MRA, so don't know if my opinion counts here.

CaptDMO

Here's what I think.
Don't ask,dont tell.
'cause it just doesn't matter.
Keep It Simple Stupid

Let's take an example from the Womans Movement
(from Fathers for Life)
    Feminism? You want feminism?  Which brand would you like?
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Women's Movement

   * Affirmative-Action Feminism
   * Anti-Feminism
   * Amazon Feminism
   * Anarcho Feminism
   * 'Boss Tweed' Feminism
   * Catholic Feminism
   * Christian Feminists
   * Constructionist Feminism
   * Cultural Feminism
   * Difference Feminism
   * Dominance Feminism
   * Eco Feminism
   * Equity Feminism
   * Erotic Feminism
   * Femaleism
   * Femicommie
   * Feminazi
   * Feminism and Women of Color
   * Gender Feminism
   * Hegemonic Feminism
   * Individualist, or Libertarian Feminism
   * Lesbianism
   * Lesbianism -- 30+ sexual orientations
   * Liberal Feminism
   * Libertarian Feminism
   * Marxist Feminism
   * Material Feminism
   * Matriarchal Separatist Feminism
   * Moderate Feminism
   * Pod Feminist
   * Pop Feminism
   * Post-modernist Feminism
   * Power Feminism
   * Pro-Family Advocates
   * Pro-Life feminists
   * Pro-Sex Feminists
   * Radical Feminism
   * Redfem
   * Resenter (angry at men) Feminism
   * Separatists
   * Socialist Feminism
   * Survivor-Feminism
   * Total Rej (total rejection) Feminism
   * Victim Feminism
   * Women of Color Feminism.

and that's the short list.
It's even more impressive at Wikipedia

Some of the most educated and/or intelligent men I've met were men.
If you know folk that are sympathetic to issues that concern  ALL men then let that fact prevail. If you have to explain - there's a problem.

Quentin0352

As long as they are for EQUAL rights for ALL men then I don't care what race, sex, orientation or etc they are. As you can see we have some women here too that are for us having equal rights and it is no different than the feminist movement when they were for equal rights before they turned in to wanting extra special treatment. They didn't refuse to allow lesbians or men and still don't refuse them if they believe in the same things as they do.

K9

To be an MRA one has to also understand that our laws were meant for all according to the 14th amendment. Liking or not liking gays has no bearing on our iisues; all people have the same rights under the law and as such I advocate/blog for gays and gay marriage, even though I personally am against such things. I would expect the same of them.
Explaining misandry to a feminist is like explaining "wet" to a fish.

Quasimodo

Quote from: "Quentin0352"
As long as they are for EQUAL rights for ALL men then I don't care what race, sex, orientation or etc they are. As you can see we have some women here too that are for us having equal rights and it is no different than the feminist movement when they were for equal rights before they turned in to wanting extra special treatment. They didn't refuse to allow lesbians or men and still don't refuse them if they believe in the same things as they do.

Quentin, I've been preaching this same creed it seems forever. Scrap all the superficial differences that have been dividing us as men, accept all men who will fight for our equality without pushing their own political, religious, whatever agenda.
axine Waters on the 2004 March for Women:
"I have to march because my mother could not have an abortion." ! ! !

TheManOnTheStreet

Who the hell cares if they are gay or Bi.  This misandist society still affects them as men as well.  What they do on their own time, in the privacy of their homes is and should never be any of my (or anyone elses) business.

That's my take anyhow.

Al
The Man On The Street is on the street for a reason.......
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It's not illegal to be male.....yet.

blackmanx

Good  answer  !   Among  the  young  men  I've  met,  some  of  those  who  were  most   passionate  and  sympathetic  to  Men's  Issues  were  gay  and  bisexual.   One  of  them,   Dave  of   Northeastern  U.  told  me  that  he  regularly  looks   up   www.mensactivism.org   for  updates  on  men's  issues.   He  has  heard  of  men's   groups   but  was  unsure  how  they  would   feel  about  having  him  around  or  hearing  him  out.
Alan  of   B.U.   had   some   similar   views.   He's   passionate  about  men's  issues,  and  he's  the  gay  son  of   a  lesbian  mother  !!!   I  think  we  should  welcome  them  in  our  midst.   Young   men  from  those  backgrounds   tend  to  be  smart,  passionate,  with disposable  income  and  good  ideas.   They  could  make  great   allies.   Not  all  gay  and  bisexual  males   agree   with  the  feminist   policies  that  fill
up  the  GLBT  community.
y book, Men's Rights Activists.

http://www.lulu.com/content/418976

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