Started by Amber, Oct 28, 2003, 06:07 PM
I'm talking about asking stuff like whether heterosexuality, men being masculine, and women being feminine is innate or learned.
(No, I was not implying that anyone here has homoerotic urges.) What I was saying was that if, hypothetically, you are right and (for example) men are naturally masculine and women feminine, then you have nothing to lose by questioning this because the answers will not contradict what you believe.
I believe the predominant understanding of gender and sexuality here is the conventional one: that people are naturally masculine males and feminine females, and heterosexual; and any deviations from this are due to some fluke in the developmental process, such as early sexual abuse, leftist brainwashing, or poor parental role models. Alternative modes of interpretation, such as queer theory, come into play when you have situations that contradict conventional understandings, such as a young man who has never been abused, never been exposed to liberal/leftist ideology, and grew up in an environment that would be considered wonderful by your or Amber's standards (a married couple consisting of a strong, masculine father and nurturing, feminine mother), identifying strongly with his father...yet he turns out to be gay in spite of all this.
Conventional gender theory is at a loss to explain such phenomena; it is at a loss to explain why someone who has never experienced any of the mediating factors that supposedly cause homosexuality in a person who would otherwise have turned out straight becomes gay nonetheless. Conventional wisdom is called into question, which is the point of queer theory.
Oh, and for the record, I have no desire to keep people from having heterosexual lifestyles. In fact, I have a friend who I always knew as being gay, who is now planning to marry a woman and be a father figure to her child. Care to guess how I feel about that? Totally against it? On the contrary, I am all for it, and I think they make a wonderful couple.
Queer Theory class treats everything as valid except a masculine male and feminine female couple.
"Perhaps his shrink should go back further." This is just circular reasoning. It's like saying, "Something must have happened because homosexuality is a result of something happening."
Not only are we biologically wired for the opposite sex, our souls can only be shared with the opposite sex. I never said you couldn't love someone else. These things are fact. A man and woman's soul is two halves of one pea finally joined together.This is the supreme being. It doesn't devalue your choice, but it's reality is is that homosexuality does not share in such a state. It's like saying homosexuals can have children. Since science can not detect spirituality of the supreme being but only man can through his love for a woman no artificial tactics could possibly bring them closer to it.