Women Who Make the World Worse

Started by bluetrigger, Dec 29, 2005, 08:06 PM

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bluetrigger

Dialouge between Kathryn Lopez and Kate O'Beirne about the latters book. Mostly pretty good.

http://www.nationalreview.com/interrogatory/obeirne200512290819.asp
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LOL.....this is a great interview, a couple of my favorite quotes:

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O'Beirne: The modern feminist movement has never enjoyed the allegiance of a majority of American women and that condescension represents feminists' explanation when confronted with the evidence. The rest of us are too stupid to recognize our oppression. One of the most celebrated feminists you'll meet in the book dismisses the surveys reporting that married women are happier than single women by attributing their contentment to being "slightly mentally ill."

Lopez: "Modern feminism's biggest enemies are the smallest humans." Without caricaturing the Left too much: What about "Her body, her choice?" People get into tough situations. Is it really fair to characterize it as a war against unborn children?

O'Beirne: Feminist fundamentalism holds that the battle of the sexes can't be won unless women make war on the tiniest enemies of their independence. How can we be the equal of men when our bodies betray us? These women aren't arguing that abortion must be available for the hard cases. They believe that women's fertility makes us inherently inferior to men, so there can be no restrictions at all on abortion. Lacking the public's support for their radical abortion agenda, they wrap their demands in a tissue of euphemisms and lies and fiercely fight to keep the issue in the courts insulated from public opinion. The majority of the public, including the majority of women, oppos
e the majority of abortions.

Lopez: Do you want men to beat their wives? How can you be against the Violence Against Women Act?

O'Beirne: It's possible to recognize that physical abuse within a relationship shouldn't be considered a "private matter" and not support enacting an ideological agenda dressed up as legislation. The feminist conviction that marriage is inherently abusive and all men potential assailants won a federal imprimatur, and well over $1 billion, with this legislation that congressmen were too intimidated to resist. This program, packed with feminist pork, has the female psychologist who declared that "all female-male relationships [are] more or less abusive" on the public payroll training police, prosecutors, and judges.


I my have to get her book, sounds good. Is it just me, or is feminism in a death spiral?  :)
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ggreen67

"Kathryn Jean Lopez: Kate, knowing you and your reputation, I was not surprised to read that you were a traitor to your sex even in law school. Does wanting to see other women fail just come naturally to you?"

Kate O'Beirne: Having been raised with three sisters and educated by women in a girls-only high school and all-female college, it was jarring to find myself labeled as a traitor to my sex. Some of my best friends were women! But I never believed that men and women were interchangeable, that marriage was a patriarchal plot, or that women's equality rested on abortion rights. So wanting to see feminists fail came naturally to me.
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Wow. I applaude Kate O'Beirne for taking that punch right off the bat. Dang, that lady came out swinging for a one-hit knockout.

dr e

Great interview.  This woman really gets it.  She mentions the father pain of Friedan, Greer, Fonda and Steinem and how these women are basically projecting their unfinished business with their inadequate fathers onto the entire population of the US.  Yep, that's feminism.

She goes on to say when asked about the failure of the ERA:

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O'Beirne: What feminists couldn't impose by constitutional amendment (thanks to Phyllis Schlafly) they have imposed through the schools, college faculties, and the culture, by judicial fiat and advocacy dressed up as legislation. Don't be fooled by their militant insistence that women's equality has been thwarted. These women are chronically dissatisfied and qualified for only one job: professional feminist. They are generously paid, largely by taxpayers, but also by corporations anxious to look good on "women's issues." The fact that American women are the most privileged women in the history of mankind (woops!) must be vehemently denied.

Because their goal of a sex-blind society is frustrated by biology (see my last chapter -- "Mother Nature Is a Bitch"), feminists' schemes are increasingly coercive. In that sense, they are losers.


This is one book I will be reading and it looks like it will be an enjoyable read.  Damn.  I love this woman.
Contact dr e  Lifeboats for the ladies and children, icy waters for the men.  Women have rights and men have responsibilties.

Rob

So, is she single?

Where can I find a woman like this? There should be a registry!

SIAM

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I my have to get her book, sounds good. Is it just me, or is feminism in a death spiral


In terms of the general public, VERY MUCH SO.  Look at when the BBC come out with the usual women-are-victims story.  Their Have Your Say forum gets hammered by men and women who are sick to death of hearing this rubbish.  

There are feminist elements in the media and politics who still have an enormous amount of power though.  In the UK, David Cameron is a total pro-feminist nutbar who, I strongly believe, is and will be totally intimidated by the feminist lobby. Tony Blair's no better, it's the way politics is going - political correctness, quotas, every colour and creed represented no matter the skill.  

So, I think the media and politics are becoming ever more militantly pro-feminist and thus becoming rather marginalised and extreme - the public want a non-evasive government, not one which shouts down to them ridiculous ideology. Same for the media.  I predict the public will become ever more vocal in its displeasure against political correctness and feminism.  This is good.  It's no longer a stealth war - it's becoming more and more obvious.  And men are voting with their feet too....this wakes up your average woman to the danger.  Disenfranchise men, and let's see how women handle that interesting problem.

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"The majority of the public, including the majority of women, oppose the majority of abortions."


Another gender feminist canard goes down the drain, this one,
"If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament."  ~Florynce R. Kennedy, 1973
Life, Liberty, & Pursuit of Happiness are fundamental rights for all (including males), & not contingent on gender feminist approval or denial. Consider my "Independence" from all tyrannical gender feminist ideology "Declared" - Here & Now!

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