Boys flunk Life 101

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Apologies if this has already been brought to the board. Seems like almost the entire catalogue of feminist dogma has been aired in this article.



Boys flunk Life 101

By Steve Israel



The most profound open secret in our nation, one that will soon rip apart the fabric of our society, is this: Boys are in trouble.

They are falling far behind girls in elementary school, in college, in life.

An 11th-grade boy now reads and writes at the level of an eighth-grade girl. Just three decades ago, there was no disparity.

Forty years ago, three-quarters of all college graduates were men. Now, less than half of graduates are male. If the spiral continues, and every statistical trend says it will, men will soon account for only one-third of all college graduates.

In the 1960s, nearly four-fifths of all graduate students in medical, law and divinity schools were men. Today, only two-fifths of those graduate students are men.

But the trouble with boys starts earlier and runs deeper than college or even high school, where just about all of the dropouts are boys. In grammar school, four of every five children taking medications like Ritalin for behavioral disorders are boys.

If this steep decline in achievement isn't reversed, men will fall irrevocably behind in life, say an increasing number of authorities who have been tracking this crisis.

Most boys in high school today will not attend college, so they won't be able to earn enough money to support a family - with or without a woman's help, writes Michael Gurian in the book, "The Minds of Boys: Saving Our Sons From Falling Behind in School and Life." They will make less than half of what a college graduate earns today, he says.

Local educators might not know all the statistics, which come from sources like the U.S. Department of Education. But they know the problem is real.

"It's a huge problem, absolutely," says Linda Argentati, the director of guidance at Liberty High School in Sullivan County. "We've done a good job getting girls prepared for life, at the expense of boys."

Honors to her

Female valedictorians in Orange, Sullivan and Ulster County high schools outnumber males by nearly two to one. And in a major role reversal, more American girls now take algebra, chemistry and biology than boys.

In Pine Bush High School, a Theory of Knowledge honors class, which focuses on critical-thinking skills, has nine girls and two boys. The class is taught by a man whose daughter is one of three Pine Bush girls who entered the Massachusetts Institute of Technology this year. No Pine Bush boys in that class got into MIT.

At Sullivan County Community College, where 63 percent of the students are girls, an honors history class has nine girls and two boys.

The inferior performance of boys is so common, girls in elementary schools have a saying to describe it: "Girls rule, boys drool."

Even male college students admit that boys are in trouble.

"I'm going to tell you right now, we ain't focused," says Roberto Stuyvesant, a Sullivan County Community College student.

Families' fears

At home, parents who grew up in a male-dominated society see girls forging ahead and boys falling behind.

The mother of a high school honors student with an "A" average and a "really bright" 19-year-old son who just flunked out of college calls her family's situation "a fact of life."

"She can focus, he can't," Sue Vincenzo of the northern Orange County hamlet of Circleville says, echoing a refrain heard from Monticello to Monroe.

The father of a female student at SUNY Orange is proud of his daughter, who's interested in a career in pediatrics, business or architecture. But her boyfriend?

He's out of work, not looking for a job and doesn't know what he wants to do.

"He's aimless," says the Orange County dad.

Girls don't need statistics to know boys are in trouble.

"My brother isn't stupid, he's just not motivated," is a refrain repeated by girl after girl.

"He'd rather play video or computer games than study," is usually their next sentence.

A 27-year-old male student at SUNY Orange knows firsthand the problem the directors of guidance counselors in Sullivan and Orange counties call "countywide concerns."

Toby Yeager has two sisters. One's a massage therapist. Another is studying forensic psychology.

"They always knew what they were doing," says the man who joined the Army right after Pine Bush High School, where he had to work through a "minor case" of attention deficit disorder. "I always struggled through everything."

What's changed?

Just a few decades ago, our nation had to pass laws to help women. Now educators are struggling to find ways to help men.

How did boys get in so much trouble?

To find out, the Times Herald-Record interviewed dozens of local and national educators, psychologists, anthropologists, parents and children.

They spoke of many factors, including the evolutionary blueprints of men and women, the structure of our schools, laws that created more opportunities for women and a society that now values the natural skills of girls more than those of boys.

Let's start with school, where boys get 70 percent of the D's and F's.

Boys don't get those grades because they're not as bright as girls. Educators and anthropologists say boys just aren't made to succeed in school.

Girls have the skills to do several things at once and the patience to solve problems, qualities that help them thrive in classrooms. Boys don't. They're more aggressive and single-minded, programmed to play violent video games like "Grand Theft Auto" rather than sit patiently in an English class.

"Schools are made for girls," says anthropologist Helen Fisher, who wrote the book, "The First Sex: The Natural Talents of Women and How They're Changing the World."

Or, as Gurian just wrote in a Washington Post column:

"The sit-still, read-your-book, raise-your-hand-quietly, don't-learn-by-doing, but-by-taking-notes-in-the-classroom is a worse fit for more boys that it is for most girls."

A scene from the first day of kindergarten is a perfect example.

An aide had just helped 5-year-old Bridget Hart to her classroom in the Sullivan West Elementary School in Jeffersonville. She acted like she'd been there all of her five years. She sat at a little desk and played colors with her new classmate, a girl. Bridget explained that blue was her favorite color even though her friend said it was for boys.

Meanwhile, outside, one of her boy classmates screamed as his father literally dragged him to class.

"Girls are socialized more to be nice people with social skills, and those behaviors are rewarded in school," says Regina Wagner, a Director of Guidance for Sullivan County BOCES.

But boys were always antsy. They were always the aggressive kids who were sent to the principal's office. But they succeeded in school, and life.

What changed to get boys in so much trouble?

Focus on focus

Until the late '60s, when men thrived, a single-minded focus and aggression were the tools needed for success. At the same time, women like SUNY Orange psychology professor Patricia Guallini were content to stay home and raise families. If they worked, an office job filing medical records was great, says Guallini, who did just that. But then came the late '60s and women's liberation. New opportunities - often legislated - opened up doors for women.

"We thought boys could take care of themselves, so we helped girls," says Kathy Stevens, co-author of "The Minds of Boys: Saving Our Sons From Falling Behind in School and Life."

Teaching methods began to change to boost girls and hurt boys, say educators like Argentati of Liberty and Monroe-Woodbury Director of Guidance Don Przytula.

Math teachers who once gave credit for just the right answer now made kids show the process to that answer. That helped girls who were more verbal and less aggressive than boys. It hurt boys. In the early 1990s, Liberty High School even established a program to introduce girls to math and science at Sullivan County Community College.

Teachers also noticed that when they asked questions, boys' hands were always among the first to shoot up. So boys were the first to be called on. And usually, the smartest boy had the right answer.

But teachers learned that, if given time, girls would think through the problem to come up with answer. So the teachers counted to five before picking a hand. Sure enough, more women got it right. Today, those methods are still taught to prospective teachers.

Meanwhile, women like Guallini quit their office jobs, went to college and got new jobs. They left their old lives behind.

When they had children, they told their daughters that they could do whatever they wanted in life - the complete opposite of what their parents said to them.

"We were told 'You're a girl, don't take calculus,'" says Patty Ogden, 50, of Pine Bush, a dental hygienist. "Now we tell our kids you can do anything."

In the shadow of success

And as more opportunities in education and the workplace were created through legislation like Title IX and the Women's Educational Equity Acts of 1968 and 1994, the skills needed for success changed.

Think of it this way: Centuries ago, a man went out with a rock to slay a buffalo. He had to develop the physical skill to judge the distance between him and the animal. He had to learn to focus to kill the beast with one blow. This is what men did for thousands of years. They learned aggression and focus.

Meanwhile, a woman stayed home with her baby. She nursed her child. She watched for snakes. She taught her child to speak. When the man came home, she cooked the meat. She learned to do several things at once. She learned to communicate, to figure things out.

"Words were a woman's tools," says Fisher.

And a woman's tools are now needed to thrive in school and the world - a world that has changed so much, so quickly, that it relies less on physical strength and aggressiveness and more on processing information and cooperation.

"The world seems not cut out for men anymore," says Kelly McBride, who teaches ethics at the journalism think tank, Florida's Poynter Institute, where, if it weren't for affirmative action, nearly 80 percent of the fellowship students would be women.

McBride has a daughter in sixth grade and a son in fourth.

"It was smooth sailing for her, but he's in trouble every week," she says. "He's running in the hall, talking out of turn, getting up out of his seat."

Change continues

Still, this is not exactly a woman's world - yet.

Women earn about three-quarters of what men earn. And while about half of American managers are women, only 8 percent of the leaders of Fortune 500 companies are female, according to Catalyst, the organization that researches working women's issues.

Men still can make more money right out of high school working physical jobs as plumbers or electricians - although that's another reason girls like Colleen MacRae of Pine Bush go to college and end up earning more than their boyfriends.

But even as you read this, the world is changing. Women's salaries rose about 4 percent in 2004, twice the rate of men's. The Scholastic Aptitude Test for college just added an essay section, which will surely help girls, who are generally three years ahead of boys in reading and writing skills. That test almost guarantees that the rate of male college graduates will continue to sink to unprecedented lows.

Meanwhile, schools are cutting out or shortening recess, which traditionally has been a time for boys to release their pent-up aggression. With the divorce rate soaring and more mothers raising sons alone, boys will have fewer role models in a world where one of the most famous men on TV is Homer Simpson.

Some answers

As the performance of boys plummets, experts are barely grappling with solutions.

Some educators suggest forming groups of relatives and friends to nurture and educate boys. Others suggest creating same-sex classrooms because girls and boys learn so differently.

Argentati of Liberty tries to teach boys to be resilient, to bounce back like a Super Ball, not fall flat and splatter like an egg. When they have problems they should talk to friends, parents and teachers, instead of retreating into their shells.

Wagner of Sullivan BOCES says boys should be rewarded for academic success, not just athletic achievement.

Przytula of Monroe-Woodbury suggests more male role models in the classroom. That will take a tidal wave of change in a society where 90 percent of all elementary school teachers are female.

Toby Yeager, a 27-year-old SUNY Orange student, wants to teach kindergarten. He's not getting much encouragement.

"People look at me like I'm a pedophile," he says.

Meanwhile, women are gaining more power as men continue their decline in school and life.

"(A man) will be three times as likely to be unemployed and more likely to be homeless (as he is today)," author Gurian wrote in The Washington Post. Men will also commit more crimes than ever, he adds. And as men fall further behind women in school, work and life, it will literally be harder to find good husbands, says McBride of the Poynter Institute. She says she's already seen the trend with her 30-something-year-old female friends, who complain they're married to "slacker" men.

The implications, she and other experts say, are profound.

"Relationships between men and women will change, and so will the workplace," says McBride. "Maybe it will create a truly equitable society or maybe it will flip it and women will become so politically, socially and economically powerful, we'll get whiplash."

But it will be men who feel the pain.

Sir Percy

So, even when we are talking about the difficulty boys are facing we get stuff like this, old saws, mendacities. They just cannot seem to think seriously or do serious thinking.[/quote]
vil, like misery, is Protean, and never greater than when committed in the name of 'right'. To commit evil when they are convinced they are doing 'good', is one of the greatest of pleasures known to a feminist.

Mr Benn

Goodbye America.

Hello China.
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whome112

Just more of the boys are at fault crap that one expects.

Look, British Public schools used the "sit-still" method of teaching for centuries. Boys did fine ...

Brain research? Maybe, maybe not.

None of today's boys see a good, healthy depiction of themselves. All media flourish on a boys are scum platform. All media run their men are garbage platform. If that doesn't effect how young men think ... Well, the fact is it does effect how boys think.

whome
ay what you mean: Mean what you say.
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devia

Steve Israel please back up your stats.

I do believe there are major problems that boys are facing in education but I do not believe that an 11th grade boy is at the same level as an 8th grade girl (for starters).

neoteny

Quote from: "devia"
Steve Israel please back up your stats.


He can't hear ya.

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I do believe there are major problems that boys are facing in education but I do not believe that an 11th grade boy is at the same level as an 8th grade girl (for starters).


1st things 1st: the sentence says "[a]n 11th-grade boy now reads and writes at the level of an eighth-grade girl."

Besides, personal disbelief is no valid argument.
The spreading of information about the [quantum] system through the [classical] environment is ultimately responsible for the emergence of "objective reality." 

Wojciech Hubert Zurek: Decoherence, einselection, and the quantum origins of the classical

woof

I think that this article explains what is happening to our boys today.


http://www.backlash.com/content/gender/1996/4-apr96/wilson04.html
Androphobia: The only respectable bigotry

   The mythology of male brutishness

by Robert Anton Wilson
Did you know that over 98 per cent of the men in the United States today have never been convicted of any violent crime or served time in prison? That, even though the U.S. imprisons a higher percentage of its citizens than any other nation, over 98 per cent of our men have never been convicted of rape, child molestation, assault, battery, breaking and entering, or any kind of violence? And almost half of the men who do land in prison are convicted of non-violent crimes (usually drug possession)?

These basic statistical facts about male nonviolence have been hidden from us by an ideology/mythology which I call androphobia -- fear and hatred of the male. Androphobia has also hidden such facts as these:

Important Feminists of the past include such males as Clarence Darrow, John Stuart Mill, Henrik Isben, Robert Dale Owen, James Joyce, and Bertrand Russell.

Psychologists who measure IQ have ne
ver found any statistical difference between the intelligence of men and women. High, middle, and low IQs are found in both sexes! There is no scientific proof of male inferiority!

The mythology of male brutishness and stupidity has been spread by the androphobes without a single shred of statistical evidence.

Do you believe men are innately brutal? When no other human being was willing to nurse the lepers on Molokai Island, it was a male, Father Joseph Damien, who went there to care for those unfortunates.

Or consider these further suppressed facts about maleness:

Although they were men, Michaelangelo, Sir Christopher Wren, and Frank Lloyd Wright are almost universally considered great architects.

The first Feminist pamphlet published in this country was written by a man -- Tom Paine (who also wrote the first anti-slavery pamphlet.)

The most original music of this century, Jazz, was created almost entirely by Black males.

Free public libraries, which made more knowledge available to more people than any invention before the computer-net, were founded on gifts made by Andrew Carnegie, who was not just male but a rich white male!

Leonardo da Vinci made hundreds of great contributions to both science and art despite the triple handicaps of being Gay, left-handed and male.

Men including Martin Luther King Jr., Mahatma Gandhi, and Sean McBride have played important roles in the struggle for world peace.

Although Shakespeare, Dante, and Homer were males, they wrote poetry generally considered as good as anything by Hilda Doolittle.

Beethoven, Mozart, and Bach were men and yet they wrote music at least as good as that of Hildegarde of Bingen.

Males such as Newton, Einstein, and Archimedes made contributions to science as important as those of Marie Curie.

The cure for yellow fever, saving the lives of millions, was found by a man, Major Walter Reed.

Despite the androphobic mythology/ideology, at no time in history except the present was maleness considered a shame, a disgrace, or a sign of inferiority.

All the "major" religions (those having millions of followers) were founded by males born in Asia (Confucius, Lau-Tse, Buddha, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed.)

Men were responsible for such basic discoveries as the sailing ship, the compass, the steam engine, the electric light, the AC generator, the computer, and many others. And males created over 90% of mathematics.

All of this sounds strange, bizarre, almost unbelievable, I know. We have all had so much brainwashing by the androphobic meme that we scarcely can believe males have ever done anything but shoot one another, rape women, and blow people up. Androphobia is the one respectable bigotry -- the only form of group-libel that is "politically correct" and goes unchallenged almost everywhere. Male achievements, thus, have been systematically excluded from "the universe of discourse" -- i.e. what "nice" people talk about.

Let us clarify the ideology of androphobia. I think androphobia can be defined as the transfer to all males of the negative stereotypes that the Ku Klux Klan and other neanderthal types assign only to black males -- mental inferiority, of course; emotional childishness, or "inability to think rationally;" brutality -- i.e. sub-human status, criminality, sexual violence, etc. (You see? All the old racist clichés except "a great sense of rhythm.") I thus regard androphobia as merely a transmutation from racism to sexism, an "advance" that is not an advance at all.

Let me make this very clear. I do not oppose Feminism; on the contrary, I reject all forms of group stereotyping and dehumanization. Androphobia (or male-bashing) has no intrinsic or necessary link with Feminism, and many Feminists utterly reject androphobia. To use an analogy, Marx said that "anti-Semitism is the socialism of fools." Similarly, I regard androphobia as the Feminism of imbeciles.

I oppose androphobia as psychological gendercide. I believe it underlies the wide spread male depression (which psychotherapists recognize as "epidemic") and also explains much of the soaring suicide rate among boys and young males.

The suicide rate among boys aged 16 to 19 is four times that of females, and the suicide rate of men between 20 and 24 soars to six times that of females (according to the U.S. Department of Health Statistics.) This self-destructiveness has increased steadily, among males, for 30 years -- since the rise of the androphobic ideology. Few want to grow up male in a society where maleness is defined as a sign of incurable inferiority or criminality.

Androphobia has created the kind of tension that psychologists call a "double-bind." A classic double-bind, as Gregory Bateson defined it in his pioneering work on the subject, involves (a) an impossible situation one cannot escape, and, (b) just as crucial, a social rule that forbids verbal comment on the impossibility of the situation. Gays, blacks, Hispanics, and all other minorities retain the freedom to comment on their situation -- even to comment angrily or to protest in the streets.

However, one cannot comment on androphobia these days. It is not only "politically incorrect" but virtually unthinkable. To talk about the subject at all remains under a very big taboo -- while millions of boys and men stagger from depression to suicide annually.

For instance, in 1979, psychologist Roy Schenk attempted to give a workshop on men's oppression at the annual conference of the Association for Humanistic Psychology. He announced in advance that the seminar would investigate what it does to the psyche of boys and men to grow up "being perceived as morally inferior to women." The AHP would not allow the workshop. This year, I tried again, offering a similar workshop at a New Age conference that had had me as workshop leader several times in the past. They also would not allow this subject to be discussed at all.

Consider the "logic" of androphobia, and how it deliberately contradicts known facts. Remember: 98% of the men in this country have never been in prison or committed a violent crime, but the androphobe insists that all men are "violent." Some of the most tender, beautiful music in the world was written by men such as Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven, but the androphobe insists all men are "insensitive." To repeat: all the major religions based on justice and love were founded by men (Asiatic men, in fact) -- but the androphobe insists all men are "greedy" and "competitive." This kind of "logic," based on totally ignoring all inconvenient facts, is common to all forms of racism, xenophobia and bigotry.

In fact, if you listen to the rantings of any leading androphobe (such as Andrea Dworkin, Carol Hemingway, or Robin Morgan) and mentally change the word "male" to "Jew" every time it appears, the result would be totally indistinguishable from the rantings of Hitler, because the "logic" of bigotry is the same in all cases. It is the "logic" of ascribing one essence to a miscellaneous group, which is only possible when all real-world daily facts are replaced by generalized abstractions. but this flight into abstraction is "politically correct" and virtually nobody dares to challenge it.

Thus, the "evil" of maleness in our society today, like the "evil" of witchcraft in medieval days, is beyond debate or discussion. The "no comment" taboo applies, leading directly to the double-bind that triggers mental breakdowns. Males, thus, have become the only minority that can be slandered and demeaned with any and all group stereotypes, in "respectable" media, and with no rebuttal allowed. All other minorities can "fight back" against group libel, but men who try to fight back against stereotypes and group libel are regarded as crazy, or "in denial," or beyond the bounds of reasonable discourse.

Fortunately, this is beginning to change -- a little. We look forward to a day when sanity and common sense triumph over bias, and all men and women, all people of all races, are judged one at a time and not condemned by group stereotypes. Meanwhile, anti-Semites (and most other bigots) can only circulate their lunatic rantings through badly printed journals with tiny circulations, while the androphobes still have free access to all major media and can endlessly spout the most idiotic forms of sexism while claiming to oppose sexism.

As Shakespeare said (with a few minor revisions and updates):

"I am a man. Hath not a man eyes? Hath not a man hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions? Fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed, and cooled by the same winter and summer, as a woman is? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die?"
Even a whole village can't replace dad, children need both parents.

Bobby

Your all missing the point:

These younger males are only reacting to reality. Society values their efforts less;

SO WHY MAKE THE EFFORT.

They are only doing exactly as they should.

Little recompense in studying or persuing a career,

SO WHY DO IT.

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If this steep decline in achievement isn't reversed, men will fall irrevocably behind in life, say an increasing number of authorities who have been tracking this crisis.


Would someone please explain to me the measure with which a life is gauged so that I could understand about this falling behind bull****.

I know that I have basic needs and they have to be fulfilled, but beyond that any effort that I put out must be measured against recompense; not some vague measure of life, but measured against:


GAS, ASS, OR CASH


JAJAJAJAJA

And while were at it, let´s take a look at this nonsense,

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Most boys in high school today will not attend college, so they won't be able to earn enough money to support a family - with or without a woman's help, writes Michael Gurian in the book, "The Minds of Boys: Saving Our Sons From Falling Behind in School and Life." They will make less than half of what a college graduate earns today, he says.


Taking care of a family doesn´t fall in the catagory of basic needs. It´s up to some women to fool me into doing this, or put another way, give me the incentive.

I GIVE NOT ONE GOOD ***DAMM ABOUT SUPPORTING A FAMILY, UNLESS THERE IS SOMETHING IN IT FOR ME.

And increasingly there is very little.

nothing

So, in conclusion I think I´ll go back to playing Grandtheft Auto, and listening to Snoop Dog lay down the line.
A different approach to different times; Independent

Everytime you feel trapped in a feminst dystopia, just repeat this mantra to yourself: "there are 3.1 billion women on earth"; SIGE

Mr. X

Well at least its one more article saying there is a problem. But I love the logic that dismisses this as a problem caused by current education. Thye dismiss past accomplishements and good academia by men and boys as simply boys have always been stupid but girls either weren't in the class room or didn't raise their hands.

This misconception that flies in the face of history that boys cannot focus and stay still is abusrd seeing how older classrooms were all about discipline and focus, especially the boys academies... ooops those got shut down.

How can anyone in their right mind think drugging kids is a solution to a social problem? Is this what women are about? We didn't drug our kids 40 years ago.

Also, can part of this be the way girls encourage boys to be stupid? Are girls wanting to date and be with smart guys or do they want dumb jock boy/toys? I remember in school the boys who could literally rape a 12 year old got dates while guys who were smart but wimpy or not jocks got squat. There's a huge inducement for boys to play the moron.

Edited:

BTW, if women have the better verbal skills, why can't feminists ever say anything understandable or in a logical, rational way?
Feminists - "Verbally beating men like dumb animals or ignoring them is all we know and its not working."

the sad geek

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I remember in school the boys who could literally rape a 12 year old got dates while guys who were smart but wimpy or not jocks got squat. There's a huge inducement for boys to play the moron.


Women love animals, literally and figuratively. As a species, they're still stuck in the jungle, evolutionary speaking. It is the lack of decency in female mate-selection that is responsible for a whole boatload of problems in modern Western civilisation. This is what you get if female sexuality is not regulated somehow.

I wish it was different.
Alles van waarde is weerloos - Everything valuable is defenseless. (Lucebert)

Rob

Mr X,

"BTW, if women have the better verbal skills, why can't feminists ever say anything understandable or in a logical, rational way?"

That's classic! Should be made into a bumper sticker!

Rob

When I was in elementary school we had a male principal (who also taught and sometimes drove the bus). He was strict but he was also one of the most interesting human beings I have ever met. Many of us boys who went there remember the fear we had from getting the strap from him - but EVERY single boy I went to school with, remembers that he was fair and when we got the strap, we deserved it! Without a doubt! We did some real stinker things sometimes!  :lol: (Girls never got the strap by the way, but I remember that they were afraid of it too! How he pulled that one off, I'll never know). I only got the strap once in the 7 years I went there (when I hit a guy in the shins with my hockey stick because he pissed me off during our recess game - did I deserve the strap? Yup.) He always had the strap hanging on the wall behind his desk and when you walked in there, just the sight of it put the fear of God in you. (In retrospect, I'm not so sure he always had it hanging there, or if he just hung it there when he knew one of us was coming to "see him")

This principal was also was a farmer, a woodsman and a hunter. An all around tough guy. He would bring in all kinds of neat stuff to school and take the time to show it to every single classroom in school. A dead bird that had flown into a window, a snake skin that he found while hiking etc. We all went on field trips to his farm to visit his pet moose, who was orphaned and took to drinking milk from his milk cow.

He retired about 10 or 15 years ago, and at the party that they threw for him, the gymnasium was overflowing with ex-students, many from 30 years back. He died a few years ago and again, his funeral was overflowing with ex-students. He was one of the most respected and most loved people in the town I grew up in - and one of the most feared by all when they were younger.

No one got ritalin when I was in elementary school. No one was a discipline problem either - we got sent to the office and he disciplined us, no problem! This masculine authority figure had such a positive impact on so many children that I am confident no-one who was in his school will ever forget him, and I honestly cannot remember a time I heard of an ex-student of his who does not speak of him with highest respect.  

After having a principal like this one, I am certain boys would do better in school if all the femi-sissies in the Department of Education realized that there is tremendous value in having a "real man" walking the halls of our schools - not some fairy version of a male educator brainwashed by the feminist version of how a teacher should be.

You don't have to be a sissy-man to teach young children or to be good with them and liked by them. One wonders why all the "smart people" who educate our teachers in University haven't been able to figure this out yet.

Sir Percy

I went to a Catholic Grammar school during my early teen years. It was co-ed and discipline was varied in application and by gender. Girls were not given corporal punishment but boys were. It was something we lads took in our stride.

Most boys were just lads, doing as lads do. Some were studious, some a little rowdy and some hardly there at all. I confess that I did hold the unofficial cup for truancy for a fairly long time, putting in a good average of two days a week. Not an ideal student for sure but little trouble to the teachers who got used to my erratic schedule. The call of adventures outside of school was just too great. Leafy, beautiful Warwickshire rolled all around for my pleasure.

Recalcitrant lads there were aplenty. The major deterrant to misbehaviour oddly was not that we got the strap - painful though it was - but that the policy of the headmaster - a Priest - that only the Deputy Head - another Priest - could dish it out. We used to speculate about what sin that fellow must have committed to be awarded such a terrible penence. He was a tall, gangly Irishman with a gentle soul. Every period end would find 15 to 20 boys, sometimes more if the weather was fine, from all corners of the campus standing outside his office. He would spend the next 15 minutes or so strapping them. Tears flowed copiously. His tears. No boy disliked Father Moran, despite his major role. We behaved mainly to prevent his pain.
vil, like misery, is Protean, and never greater than when committed in the name of 'right'. To commit evil when they are convinced they are doing 'good', is one of the greatest of pleasures known to a feminist.

Jeff P

Wow what a hateful, worthless article. Sheesh, let's just view boys as defective girls.

I am all for more attention to the challenges that boys face, but this does more harm than good.

Jeff

Stallywood

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Wow what a hateful, worthless article. Sheesh, let's just view boys as defective girls.

I am all for more attention to the challenges that boys face, but this does more harm than good.

Jeff


I agree. Basically they say that the world is more suited to Women's suppoesed skills... which are a media myth. They treat boys like shit for years, and then have the nerve to wonder what went wrong. And the parents of these boys ought to have their ass'es kicked. You dont just stand by and watch you kid go down the tubes....unless you really dont give a damn. There is just so much wrong with this Bullshit article...Nexy they will come out with an article that states, that no one is at fault as previously thought, its just the natural progression of eveolution. Men are a dead end, and women are the future blah blah blah....Oh, and I almost forgot to add what I think is a very hidden agenda inside this article. And that is, what are these poor women to do, if these single minded, agressive, loafers can not adapt to the modern world? Who are they suppose to marry, and most important of all, who will these women be able to sponge off of, er collect child support, alimony, ect....from?

Stally
Gentleman is a man who consciously serves women. I prefer the golden rule.

Behind every great man, is a
parasite.

Women who say men won't commit, usually aren't worth committing to.

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