But officer the four year old seduced me!

[damnbiker]

This one is unbelievable, really!  This woman claims that a 4 year old boy seduced her.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=local&id=3953521

Day care worker arrested for alleged sex abuseShe's facing 25 years behind bars if found guilty
Eyewitness News' Jeff Pegues
(New York-WABC, March 1, 2006) - A 37-year-old day care worker was arrested for allegedly raping and sexually abusing a four-year-old boy, police say.

Eyewitness News Reporter Jeff Pegues is in South Ozone Park with details.
Sources tell us in what amounts to a bizarre confession that the suspect is actually accusing the four-year-old boy of seducing her. But police are not buying that explanation as they investigate several instances of rape and sexual abuse inside the day care center over a six-week period.

Detectives led the suspect away to central booking in handcuffs. She's facing 25 years behind bars if she's found guilty.

She did not respond when asked if she had anything to say about the charges. The 37-year-old is accused of the rape and sexual abuse of a little boy at this day care facility, where today, parents appeared blindsided by the charges.

Some have known the suspect -- a teacher's aide -- for four years.

"She's a very nice lady..very nice lady," a parent said.

But if the charges are true, Khenwatie Bedessie is a monster who preyed on a little boy in her care.

According to police, in the early morning hours and during the children's naptime at the facility, she would allegedly separate the four-year-old from the other children, and take him into a bathroom where police say she would sexually abuse him.

Queens District Attorney Richard Brown: "The child I fear will never recover from the emotional trauma that was allegedly inflicted upon him."

[K9]

Apparently this 4 year old didn't know he was supposed to kick back and enjoy it, or failing that, he should have just shut up and took it like a man.

[LSBeene]

This is MIND BLOWING.

To me, IMO, she's just regurgitating what she's seen other women use to get out of jail.

But ..... *****4***** YEARS OLD!?!??!

Steven

[johnnyp]

Males are becoming exploitive at a very young age!  Maybe we should jail all males as a preventative effort.

[The Biscuit Queen]

Two things.

One, this is disgusting. This woman needs to be hung publicly. Predators like this, male or female, cannot be allowed to get away with this. A four year old seduced anyone? I smell an insanity plea coming.

Second, and this is to Galt.

So was the boy's mother a better wife because she put her son into chidcare and was working? THIS is why so many families want their kids home with a parent, NOT shuffled off to childcare. It has nothing to do with the Anna Nichole Smiths of the world, or leaching, or any of the other nefarious reasons you can come up with for the minority of women who are like that.  I totally respect your not wanting to be in that sort of relationship, but THIS is the reason most SAHMs and dads I know are home, and I would appreciate some recognition to that effect when you are slamming on non-working wives.

[Galt]

Second, and this is to Galt.

If you look closely at my rants, I usually put in a caveat about young children.  I have no problem with parents divvying up responsibility for small children.  At least correctly attribute what I'm saying to me.

But this isn't the thread for that argument, so I'll leave it be here.

Edited to add: Here's an example ----

http://www.standyourground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8401&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

"Just so there's no confusion, here's my clear position: If young children are involved, I understand how a man and woman can divvy up the responsibilities, while one partner pays for the other. Otherwise, I have difficulty understanding how one gender is supposed to support another gender ... just because. When we all have equal opportunity today."

That was posted on Feb. 18 and edited on Feb. 19.  3rd post down.  I suppose the next claim will be that I got a time machine and went back to write that.

That's the "straw man" thing - set up a straw man (that a poster never asserted) and then knock it down.  I just had Devia do that to me a while ago - she attributed pretty much the opposite of what I consistently say and then knocked it down.  Is that the new tactic here - did I miss the meeting about that?  LOL

[The Biscuit Queen]

Nope, not a straw man. This is your banner, your sword, the thing which you hold dearest. Occasionally, you give a small nod towards the children angle, but then the next 10 posts do not, they make broad generalizations about the women who do not work.

Where do you draw the line Galt? at 5, when kids are in kindergarten? Then who takes them summers, sick days, snow days?

At 11, when they are going towards Jr High? Then who makes sure they aren't getting bombarded after school by older kids, or teen babysitters.

At 15? High school? So how do you know your child is home alone, rather than sneaking his girlfriend in, or doing drugs in the basement?

I will not pretend to know where the line should be. I just know that parenting is not as easy as saying at 5 I will return to work and the child will be at school and we will live life happily ever after. Kids get sick, school gets cancelled, friends are untrustworthy, etc.

I try to ignore most of your anti-SAHM posts, because I have no hope in fighting with you about it. It is your opinion, and you are welcome to it. But I thought this hit home with WHY I stay home. And when you look at that post of the 11 year old raped and charged with child support, it would not have happened if the parents were home.

I am not trying to win a debate here, I just want you to think about it. I should have PMd this, as it really was just meant as a "please think about this" not a "defend your position!"

[Quentin0352]

Jeeze! The reporting STILL tried to be biased! Look at how they refer to her in it. Now if a man does this they place his name in the first paragraph ASAP so people know. In this case they always state "37-year-old" and it is only when they question a parent do we find her name buried down in the story. Even then they had to find a parent that praised her. At least they stated she is a monster "if the story is true" though.

Now compare how she is treated by the media in the story to a man that has been acused of having sex even with a 15-16 year-old girl. That is treated as a much more monsterous crime with his name plastered everywhere and the word "accused" usually laft out of it.

[SecondToDie]

Where's the outcry from feminist groups over the victim being blamed for the rape?

[AnubisRox]

I'm just waiting for more "mitigating" details to come out of it, as it seems always happens when it comes to female offenders. Maybe she was stressed? Maybe she was molested by a MAN at 4? Betchya a nickel.

These events are happening more and more often. Isn't an alarm gonna sound off anytime soon?!

Not to sidetrack since this does sorta go with this post. But is it my imagination but when a guy is accused of rapes or murders they articles or reports always seem to put an adjective with him, like creep, monster, pervert, etc? But with female accusers, if they put the gender at all, sort of put more of a personal spin on it, like "Mother of 2" and the like? Maybe they'll even go below the belt and put the word "accused" in there.

I'd hate to be in the cogs of the justice system.  

[typhonblue]

I can`t believe they`d even print a line like...

`Sources tell us in what amounts to a bizarre confession that the suspect is actually accusing the four-year-old boy of seducing her. But police are not buying that explanation as they investigate several instances of rape and sexual abuse inside the day care center over a six-week period. `

If it was a male suspect would they even need to *say* `the police are not buying that explaination`

BTW, no doubt stay-at-home mothers are the perpetrators as well and I`m sure if they are its far more likely that they get away with it.

And this is for BQ.

If you need people to affirm your life choices, perhaps you should start your own bbs board devoted to that.

Galt has every right to question why women, almost exclusively, get to be homemakers and why they get such incredible amounts of social and government support in doing so. If the option was available to men at the rate that men seem to desire it (40%) then I think Galt wouldn`t have a problem with the privilage of being a homemaker.

It`s like this. A woman comes on here saying she`s X, but X is a privilage reserved almost exclusively for women. Very few men get to have that privilage, although a significant minority (40%) want it. X involves all sorts of personal pluses, extra time with your kids, extra time with your friends, a self-directed work enviroment, no work politics or deadline preassures, plus extra time a day to pursue hobbies and interests. Then the woman not only wants to have her privilaged position, but have people see it as being as hard and demanding as the position her husband is in, providing the money to support her. Despite the fact that, statistically, her husband works longer hours, has to deal with work politics, deadlines and being directed by someone else who could fire him if he steps out of line, *and* he has to deal with the preasure of being the only bread winner.

Now, if the woman was simply privilaged and knew it, and it was a mutual decision between her and her husband, I`m sure Galt would respect that, while still pointing out that very, very few men get the same choice. And that she would likely be working if she were a man, thus her lifestyle is entirely a result of her female privilage.

But if also she wants to be seen as sacrificing equally with her husband(having her cake and eating it too)... well, I think that`s where Galt draws the line.

Correct me if I`m wrong, Galt.

[gwallan]

The absurdity of some of these excuses is a pretty fair indication that these offenders think they do no wrong. How on earth do they get that impression? Couldn't be a culture that convices them it's harmless? Surely?

BTW, no doubt stay-at-home mothers are the perpetrators as well and I`m sure if they are its far more likely that they get away with it.

This article by Lisa Lipshires (unfortunately old - 1994) deals a bit with maternal incest.

[SIAM]

A four year old seduced anyone? I smell an insanity plea coming.

You beat me to it.  After all, only the insane could rape a 4 year old, right? A punishment-free crime! Emmm, as long as you're a woman.

[woof]

We are making progress.
Last month a 6 year old was suspended from 1st grade for sexual harassment, for snaping a girls waist band.
This month the police don't believe a 4 year old seduced his teacher!

Sometimes it looks like the movie Dumb and Dumber, wasn't a comedy, but instead a rather insightful documentary about the future.

[Gabriel]