Women having difficulty finding men?

[zarby]

This is a constant theme here. Men are shying away form women because of MR's issues. Men are avoiding women, etc.

Is this really true? I have my doubts.

How many divorced women fail to find a new husband? How does this compare to divorced men?

It seems to me that women as a general rule still seem to have more choices in men than men have in women.

I know my ex has been through a series of boyfriends. I have no similar series of girlfriends. She seems to have had no trouble finding men.

I know women right articles about how men are scarce, but women are always complaining about something. Is it really true?

I see no huge quanity of women desparate for a man (at least not me).

Does anybody know some actual facts on this issue?

[BRIAN]

The shortage is not of men in general. The shortage is of weak minded, easy to manipulate, independantly wealthy men who are willing to support a woman who brings little more to the table than a vagina.

[lkanneg]

How many divorced women fail to find a new husband? How does this compare to divorced men?

The majority of divorced people remarry, but I believe the percentage of men remarrying is higher than the percentage of women remarrying.  

It seems to me that women as a general rule still seem to have more choices in men than men have in women.

After 30 there are less men, so probably not.  I've noticed that this choice business is heavily dependent upon the physical appearance of the woman.  If she's hot, men are everywhere.  If she's fat, she's probably lucky to just get laid.

[The Gonzman]

After 30 there are less men, so probably not.  I've noticed that this choice business is heavily dependent upon the physical appearance of the woman.  If she's hot, men are everywhere.  If she's fat, she's probably lucky to just get laid.

I don't know the amount of "hot" women who complain "I keep in shape, I watch my weight, I got a boob job, yaddayaddayadda, and come to find out he left me for that chunky plain-jane?"

My reply to them: "Well - When he sees you, the demands and complaints start, and when it comes to sex, you lay there and act like all you have to do is show up, and he's getting a big favor.  Over at Jane's house, she rearranges her life for him, treats him like he's the highlight of her day, says "please" and "thank you" and when it comes to sex is an eager and active participant."

Yeah - I take those "plain-janes" any day.

"Fat" is a very subjective term.  When you have rolls, jowls, double chins, and have to move flesh to get to the goodies - that's fat to me - and I find it gross; I find in it someone who doesn't respect themselves, and could never truly respect me.

What are called "Rubinesque" women?  Nothing wrong with that at all.  In fact, I like my women round, not looking like an anorexic twelve-year old boy.

[lkanneg]

After 30 there are less men, so probably not.  I've noticed that this choice business is heavily dependent upon the physical appearance of the woman.  If she's hot, men are everywhere.  If she's fat, she's probably lucky to just get laid.

I don't know the amount of "hot" women who complain "I keep in shape, I watch my weight, I got a boob job, yaddayaddayadda, and come to find out he left me for that chunky plain-jane?".

That's funny, cuz I've never heard that complaint, and I've known a lot of women pretty well who keep in shape and watch their weight (though not that have gotten a boob job, I admit).  I have witnessed a lot of chunky plain-janes who, if they have anything, have a booty-call roster or guys who are "friends, I love you but I'm not IN love with you, meaning I'll have sex with you and hang out with you but if a hot chick beckons, I'm outta here til she dumps me."  

What are called "Rubinesque" women?  Nothing wrong with that at all.  In fact, I like my women round, not looking like an anorexic twelve-year old boy.

Those of us who are more of the bootylicious variety than the anorexic are always pleased to hear that.  

[Malakas]

I don't know the amount of "hot" women who complain "I keep in shape, I watch my weight, I got a boob job, yaddayaddayadda, and come to find out he left me for that chunky plain-jane?"

My reply to them: "Well - When he sees you, the demands and complaints start, and when it comes to sex, you lay there and act like all you have to do is show up, and he's getting a big favor. Over at Jane's house, she rearranges her life for him, treats him like he's the highlight of her day, says "please" and "thank you" and when it comes to sex is an eager and active participant."

Yeah - I take those "plain-janes" any day.

"Fat" is a very subjective term. When you have rolls, jowls, double chins, and have to move flesh to get to the goodies - that's fat to me - and I find it gross; I find in it someone who doesn't respect themselves, and could never truly respect me.

What are called "Rubinesque" women? Nothing wrong with that at all. In fact, I like my women round, not looking like an anorexic twelve-year old boy.

When Napoleon asked asked his Swiss General why his countrymen fought only for money while the French fought for glory, the General replied, " We both fight for what we do not have".  - needs some thought.

[zarby]

lkanneg

I think you over exaggerate although there is of course some truth to what you say. I think looks is not everything -- not even close.

I see a lot of "hot" chicks who turn me off big time. Why? They are not
nice at all. Often, you can see it in the way they walk or their facial
expressions. If not, after a short time, it is easy to figure out that they are not nice at all. Simply, they may be "hot", but they are bitches.

The most attractive thing about a woman to me is the way she treats
me. If she is nice and friendly, that means an awful lot. I think I
am not the only guy who feels this way - not by a long shot.

I am of course not saying looks are irrelevant but I would take a nice and friendly "7" any day over a bitch "10." I agree that I might pass by a 4 regardless of how nice she may be.

The point is that looks are not the whole thing -- not even close.

[Vet/Father]

Maybe it's because the male popuation(AMERICAN BORN) are droping like a rock. I did a study back in 2002 with the U.S. Censes report , before it was changed in late 2005 for some unknown reasons.
The old(real data) reported that in
1950...
females....76 million
males ......75 million
* 1 million more females, because of WW2 many men died*

Then in 1970...
Females .....104.2 million
Males..........98.9 million
The ratio of females jump by almost 5 millions

What happened between the 50's and 60's that we find 5 million less males ?
A)---> 1966--Welfare started

In 1990...
Females .....127 million
Males..........121 million
That's 6 million now(1 million more than the 1970 report, what happened bettween 1970's and 1990?

A)---> Child Support enforcement started in 1975, and 42/666 (Bradley Amendment) in 1985

2000.
Females....143 million
Males........134 million

9 million...
What happened between 1990 and 2000?
A)---> WAVA in 1996

Then last year(2005) the U.S. Censes changes data to
143 million females
138 million males

why?...Note more ilegals that enter U.S. are males, and More males (60/40) are foreigner that attend our U.S. College, and still the current ratio in our college/Universities are @ 60% females and 40% males in total.

So, looking at the big picture as a former soldier point of view in nutshell..
We are being taken out slowly, period.

And being replaced by non-american(U.S.) born males.

[Factory]

lkanneg

I think you over exaggerate although there is of course some truth to what you say. I think looks is not everything -- not even close.

I see a lot of "hot" chicks who turn me off big time. Why? They are not
nice at all. Often, you can see it in the way they walk or their facial
expressions. If not, after a short time, it is easy to figure out that they are not nice at all. Simply, they may be "hot", but they are bitches.

The most attractive thing about a woman to me is the way she treats
me. If she is nice and friendly, that means an awful lot. I think I
am not the only guy who feels this way - not by a long shot.

I am of course not saying looks are irrelevant but I would take a nice and friendly "7" any day over a bitch "10." I agree that I might pass by a 4 regardless of how nice she may be.

The point is that looks are not the whole thing -- not even close.

Having just gone through a relationship rollercoaster sorta thing, and being 36 now (feelin old) I can say a few things.  See, I look really really young for my age.  You'll have to trust me when I say 19 year old women have hit on me...hard...very recently.  They were shocked I was as old as that.

Which brings me to my point.  See, I go to a Pub that caters to people from 19-55, in a nearly even mix.  While I was single for a bit there, I was stricken by the difference between younger and older women.  The younger ones were interested, engaging, genuinely enthused and not afraid to show it.  The older women were friendly in a fake sort of way, like when you're being nice to customers at work - I always got the feeling I was interrupting thier evening...even when they approached me.  More than 10 minutes of conversation, the older women were usually in the process of bitching about how there were so few men worth anything these days - and of course how I seemed to be one of the good ones.  The younger ones were having fun and cracking jokes.

Both types of women were really at the bar just to get laid...maybe meet someone nice but definitely laid first.

The younger ones would seemingly have the advantage (given thier youth and....well, nearly every man I know's desire for younger females).  But the younger ones are the ones that went out of thier way to show interest, and appreciation.

It just struck me as odd.  I suppose I could try and figure out why that was the case...but I'd rather just keep chasing the young ones that actually appreciate me.  Call me selfish.

[The Gonzman]

That's funny, cuz I've never heard that complaint, and I've known a lot of women pretty well who keep in shape and watch their weight (though not that have gotten a boob job, I admit).  I have witnessed a lot of chunky plain-janes who, if they have anything, have a booty-call roster or guys who are "friends, I love you but I'm not IN love with you, meaning I'll have sex with you and hang out with you but if a hot chick beckons, I'm outta here til she dumps me."

Lotta guys have the same complaint with the girl who claims to want "a nice guy" but goes for the hot jerk.  The usual response to that is that "There are nice guys, and those who only ACT like it to get a piece, but are jerks inside.   Given the choice of jerks - dorky or hot - a girl will take the hot one every time."

Hmm.

[zarby]

I agree that over zealous child support enforcement and VAWA has taken out some men whether by suicide, excessive stress, etc. but I don't know about those laws taking out men in those numbers? I suppose possible.

Even more startling is the disparity in numbers in general. As I recall more male babies are born than female babies. It is obvious that males are dying in larger numbers than females for whatever reason.

I suppose it ought to happy hunting for us surviving males? I am not sure why the hunting seems so poor at least from my perspective.

These numbers also may show why politicians cater to females so much. The fact is that the votes are there (not only do females outnumber males -- a lot of males have been felonized, etc. and can't vote).

[Vet/Father]

This is how you destroy a country from within using Sun Tzu and outline in communist manifesto , NWO blueprints.
The real fighters in America are males/MEN...
There are 3 main groups that served the most in U.S. Military, since civil war and WW1,WW2,K.War,V.War,Panama,Gulf war 1 and 2 and now.
#1...White males
#2...Black males
#3...Puerto Rican males(WW1 onward)

You start from bottom like in 1966 with Black males, then Puerto Rican Americans, then work you way up to White males.
Today we have 70%+ of Black fathers destroyed
Today we have 60%+ of Puerto Rican fathers destroyed.

The list is endless, but it doesn't matter anymore, because we have NWO demons in power now, and everyday, everyhour more of us die in combat and at home using our own women to do it.
smart plan it was, very smart

[typhonblue]

As a student I have odd hours.

Sometimes I go shopping for food in the middle of the day.

I see plenty of women who are not even close to skinny(every day, not just after the welfare checks are handed out) wandering down the isles with a couple kids in tow.

Some man is paying for them to spend a lesuirely day shoping at superstore.

Sometimes on my off days I decide to treat myself to a hot chocolate. I go down to the local star bucks and what do I find? A bunch of women in gap cloths, stocky (not fat, but not skinny), sipping lattes while they chat together, sproggen safely stowed in their child containment units.

Some man is paying for them to spend a lesuirely day chatting with friends at the local coffee house.

Both types of women are not sylphs. Both types of women manage to get some man to pay for their existance. (If you're fat you end up with a working class man, if you're stocky you end up upper middle class to rich and if you're thin you either end up married to a really rich man or you end up middle class. No idea why this is so consistant but if you ever go to a society luncheon or caberette, almost all the women are stocky.)

People forget the idea of compromise. A man might want cindy crawford but a cindy crawford is few and far between so he has to compromise with a woman he can get.

Further the success of a man isn't only predicated on his innate worth, it also seems to be related to the wife he chooses. Those stocky women are, quite often, more industrious, more even tempered, and more supportive then a lot of the smaller lasses, who have higher expectation of the men they're with and lower expectations of themselves. Which may be why they end up with a better preforming man. (I know this sounds callous, sorry.)

I'm afraid my observations are that men are still more desperate for women then women are for men.

Finally, women express less of a desire to get married immediately after divorce then men. They say they would prefer to be unmarried for a longer period of time then men. So it makes sense men get married (or try to get married) faster after divorce.

[Vet/Father]

I agree that over zealous child support enforcement and VAWA has taken out some men whether by suicide, excessive stress, etc. . The fact is that the votes are there (not only do females outnumber males -- a lot of males have been felonized, etc. and can't vote).

Yes, they made us felons, not only voting rights, but 2nd Amendment rights.

[Factory]

As a student I have odd hours.

Sometimes I go shopping for food in the middle of the day.

I see plenty of women who are not even close to skinny(every day, not just after the welfare checks are handed out) wandering down the isles with a couple kids in tow.

Some man is paying for them to spend a lesuirely day shoping at superstore.

Sometimes on my off days I decide to treat myself to a hot chocolate. I go down to the local star bucks and what do I find? A bunch of women in gap cloths, stocky (not fat, but not skinny), sipping lattes while they chat together, sproggen safely stowed in their child containment units.

Some man is paying for them to spend a lesuirely day chatting with friends at the local coffee house.

Both types of women are not sylphs. Both types of women manage to get some man to pay for their existance. (If you're fat you end up with a working class man, if you're stocky you end up upper middle class to rich and if you're thin you either end up married to a really rich man or you end up middle class. No idea why this is so consistant but if you ever go to a society luncheon or caberette, almost all the women are stocky.)

People forget the idea of compromise. A man might want cindy crawford but a cindy crawford is few and far between so he has to compromise with a woman he can get.

Further the success of a man isn't only predicated on his innate worth, it also seems to be related to the wife he chooses. Those stocky women are, quite often, more industrious, more even tempered, and more supportive then a lot of the smaller lasses, who have higher expectation of the men they're with and lower expectations of themselves. Which may be why they end up with a better preforming man. (I know this sounds callous, sorry.)

I'm afraid my observations are that men are still more desperate for women then women are for men.

Finally, women express less of a desire to get married immediately after divorce then men. They say they would prefer to be unmarried for a longer period of time then men. So it makes sense men get married (or try to get married) faster after divorce.

Well said.

But the desperation part is simply because sex toys for men haven't progressed to the level that sex toys for women have...