DV truth eking out.

Started by Thomas, Apr 06, 2006, 05:01 PM

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Thomas

Facts continue to slip, on occasion, into reports by mainstream media. This article on CNN reports on DV by women against men. It ends with a bit about anger and frustration felt by many women, which to me sounds like an insinuation of an excuse, but on the whole it's a decent article.
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dr e

Good article.  This part was worth the whole thing:

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Tom said while sitting in a courtroom during his divorce, he realized he was a victim of abuse.

"I looked up, and I see a poster saying 'Are you a victim of domestic violence?' And I start reading the questions, and tears started coming down. I said, 'damn.' "


Nicely done.
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rantmeister

Wow! Great article, and very encouraging that it's in the mainstream media.

Just a couple nights ago I also saw that New Age musician Yanni on Larry King Live talking about his false arrest for domestic violence. Come on, Yanni a wife beater? Who's next? Steven Hawking?

The charges were dropped, but Yanni still had to go through the criminalization process and then go on TV to try to repair his image. It's good for people to keep hearing about these issues. At some point, we will reach the tipping point, and feminists will experience what a real backlash feels like. I don't know when it will happen, but the fall will be spectacular.

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SecondToDie

By tomarrow evening, I'm sure some feminist bloggers will have seen this article and are going to rant about how, by writing one article on male victims, the evil misogynist media is ignoring the millions of women who are battered by men.

dr e

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Who's next? Steven Hawking?



:yes:  :yikes:  :yes:
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"Men have gotten the point that it's not OK to do those things, but somehow it's turned around, and it's OK for women to do those things," LeClerc said.

Hilker said her anger would build and build until she couldn't control it. She also said other woman are feeling the same frustration, and are resorting to violence


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Who's next? Steven Hawking?


Maybe you posted that because you know this:-

http://www.safe4all.org/forums/message-view?message_id=20900

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There has been a flury of newstories about the possibility that Stephen Hawking is an abused man. Stephen Hawking is the famous physicist and author of A Brief History of Time. He denies that he is being abused. Perhaps he is, perhaps he isn't. Many domestic violence victims, male and female, don't admit to being abused. Men often don't admit it because they are afraid of the social consequences. Looking at how David Gest and Liza Minnelli's fiasco has played out, it's hard to blame Mr. Hawking.

PowerMan72

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Gabriel

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Good article.  This part was worth the whole thing:

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Tom said while sitting in a courtroom during his divorce, he realized he was a victim of abuse.

"I looked up, and I see a poster saying 'Are you a victim of domestic violence?' And I start reading the questions, and tears started coming down. I said, 'damn.' "


Nicely done.


There is no reason to cry about it. Geez. No I am not kidding. I get pissed when I see men accepting the victim role.

Fine. Realize you let a woman smack you around. Grab your nuts and make a commitment that you won't let that happen again.

Sir Jessy of Anti

I think most people know this but, there was at one time, serious speculation as to whether Stephen Hawking was being abused by his wife.

http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/01/23/hawking.ap/

He denied it, but apparently his nurse blabbed different to someone or other...

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dr e

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Good article.  This part was worth the whole thing:

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Tom said while sitting in a courtroom during his divorce, he realized he was a victim of abuse.

"I looked up, and I see a poster saying 'Are you a victim of domestic violence?' And I start reading the questions, and tears started coming down. I said, 'damn.' "


Nicely done.


There is no reason to cry about it. Geez. No I am not kidding. I get pissed when I see men accepting the victim role.

Fine. Realize you let a woman smack you around. Grab your nuts and make a commitment that you won't let that happen again.




I think you are too quick to judge.  Let men do what they want to do.  If he wants to cry let him cry.  Shedding a few tears does not equate with accepting the victim role.   Maybe it wouldn't be right for you but maybe it is right for him.
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Sir Percy

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There is no reason to cry about it. Geez. No I am not kidding. I get pissed when I see men accepting the victim role.

Fine. Realize you let a woman smack you around. Grab your nuts and make a commitment that you won't let that happen again.


Many men do not accept the victim role. They commit suicide instead. Others fall into severe depression.

Dismissing the realities as simply 'victim role' is sneering at pain. The pain is not simply the abuse that they have stoically - sometimes unwittingly - put up with for much of their married lives, but at the betrayal. Men in general place high value on loyalty, be it to themselves, unusual, or to some higher cause or principle. Most men just go about their selfless business of supporting, providing for, sacrificing for, abasing themselves in the workplace for, nurturing,  their wives and families and are stunned when the accusations fly and the trusted partner shows the face of a traitor. The shell-shock one sees in men's eyes as they file into the Family Court is frightening to see and elicits my profound sympathy - yes, and empathy. Then they face the hordes of rent-taking parasites who strip them in their pain like brigands after a battle strip the dying of their boots. The chief brigand is usually  the man's trusted partner.

It can break a man's spirit. These men ARE victims. It is not a badge of honour as worn by many women but a reality. It is the lack of adequate recognition of the victimisation by virtually everyone and the systematic denial of the pain experienced by men - and the pseudo-macho rejection of the reality of being a victim by many other men - that has added immesurably and wickedly to men's problems.

I cry.

I am a human being.
vil, like misery, is Protean, and never greater than when committed in the name of 'right'. To commit evil when they are convinced they are doing 'good', is one of the greatest of pleasures known to a feminist.

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"At some point, we will reach the tipping point, and feminists will experience what a real backlash feels like. I don't know when it will happen, but the fall will be spectacular."


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"Fine. Realize you let a woman smack you around. Grab your nuts and make a commitment that you won't let that happen again."


The devils in the details.  Sincerely, how do you propose a man make such a commitment (in detail) and carry it out?
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Thomas

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At some point, we will reach the tipping point, and feminists will experience what a real backlash feels like. I don't know when it will happen, but the fall will be spectacular.

When?

Just watch, as the long, slow, drawn out strangulation of developed economies takes place as a direct result of the un-prepared for collapse of fertility rates. A dreadful reckoning is coming.
We Are Self-Exterminating Through The Collapse Of Fertility Rates.
The Death of Birth.
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