The squeeze on up-marrying women

[neonsamurai]

I usually get the Weird-Fuck Role. Which sucks, I'm always wanting the Didn't-Even-Show Role.

I've moved on from the weird-fuck role and proudly embrace the didn't-even-show role. Now I'm the weird-fuck who doesn't show and thus even weirder or sometimes I'm just some angry loser.

I'm always wanting 'the maverick cop who plays by his own rules and gets results' role, but I'm too short to be a policeman  :?

Back to the thread: It seems to me that equality isn't swinging both ways (surprise, surprise). What I find annoying though is how often we hear stuff like this yet the article tries to prove it wrong by asking half a dozen women, who then regurgitate stuff they saw on an episode of 'Saved by the Bell'.

"I don't care what a guy looks like, or how much he earns, what I want is a kind man with a good heart. Just like Screech."

Don't judge people by what they say, judge them by what they do (one of the best pieces of advice I was ever given) and it seems that women these days are voting with their feet. And good luck to them, I admire their confidence.

But it seems that there isn't a problem with women's choices, at least as far as the media is concerned. It's not that they're too picky, it's that men aren't measuring up and that women deserve the best because 'you're worth it' (to quote from a popular shampoo advert). The media chooses to ignore the fact that if women are earning the same as men then how can they still marry up? In order for that to happen then men must be earning more than women.

However, there's another issue here. If (as we're always repeatedly told) women earn 76 cents to every dollar a man makes, then what's the problem. If the average man really is earning 24% more per year then the average women then there can't be a glut of successful men, can there?

We've got another "only women can be victims of DV because they're much weaker than men/but they should be in the army because they're just as good at fighting" situation. It's either one or the other, not both.

[gwallan]

We've got another "only women can be victims of DV because they're much weaker than men/but they should be in the army because they're just as good at fighting" situation. It's either one or the other, not both.

No, you miss the point. Women bring a kindness and sensitivity to war that those brutes of men could never manage. Bloody violent arseholes just want to fight and be violent all the time.

[realman]

"Women bring a kindness and sensitivity to war that those brutes of men could never manage."

Yes, when women kill it's a kinder, gentler kind of killing. Actually, the way women kill is beautiful. Everything about women is beautiful. Celebrate woman!

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[stands2p]

The analysis of Census data revealed the proportion of 30 to 34-year-old unqualified men with wives or live-in partners dropped from 68 per cent in 1986 to 52 per cent in 2001.

(emphasis added)

What is an "unqualified" man?  Is this an "Aussie-ism"  roughly equivalent to "un-degreed" or "non-degree holding?"

[gwallan]

The analysis of Census data revealed the proportion of 30 to 34-year-old unqualified men with wives or live-in partners dropped from 68 per cent in 1986 to 52 per cent in 2001.

(emphasis added)

What is an "unqualified" man?  Is this an "Aussie-ism"  roughly equivalent to "un-degreed" or "non-degree holding?"

That seems to be the intent. You could also spin it to suggest there are fewer unqualified men to begin with.

[ThePatriarch]

I have many problems with this article.

First there is the problem of self-serving biases (from this 34 years old women)

(Link here for explanation: http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2006/06/self-serving-biases-rant-1.html#links)

Her value is much less than she think.

Second there is an economic theory problem.  If all men are of lower value, it doesn't lead to more men being single.  Only to females having to settle for less.

[Somebody else]

Wow, where to even start...

ELIZABETH Jean knows exactly what she doesn't want in a man. "If I ever want to have children, I still want to lead a good life. I don't want to be rocking the pram with one hand and working with the other, so he needs to be earning either equal to what I earn or better," she says.

Men - just another accessory to womens' wardrobes.

"I'm ready to get married now," says Jean, 34. "He has to be smart and witty, and he needs to be doing something interesting with his life."

Nanny-state, where's my perfect accessory now that I'm ready for it. Nanny-state, we set you up to provide us with everything we want - SO DO IT, DAMMIT!

At issue is the fact women are increasingly reluctant to make a life with a man they will be forced to support, especially as house prices rise and the cost of having children becomes a bigger issue.

But they expect men to do what they will not. Yeah, that's equality.

"Women have traditionally looked upwards in social status terms, but that's simply not going to work any more because just in educational terms there are more achievers among women than there are among men, so it does mean that many of these women will have to adjust," he suggests.

Whaaaaaa! :crybaby:

[Malakas]

Her value is much less than she think.

Ah yes, Patriarch.
In my distant youth I worked for a few years in Realty. Guys in the bar were always telling me about their house and asking what it was worth. Guess they thought that a beer bought an expert valuation.

The answer, as everybody knows is. 'It's worth what somebody will pay'.

[Mr. Bad]

I usually get the Weird-Fuck Role. Which sucks, I'm always wanting the Didn't-Even-Show Role.

I take the I-Don't-Give-A-Shit-About-Stupid-Ass-Boring-Parties-So-I'm-Staying-Home-And-Doing-My-Own-Thing  role, thus they don't get to assign any role to me.  

As for the article, all I care to say is (quoting some famous wiseacker) "Be careful what you wish for..."

[woof]

WHAT WOMEN WANT

..... :? ........ah....well.....sigh...... :shock:

[Quentin0352]

I always play the, "Party, fuck that I hate crowds!" nutcase.

As for the thread, no different than the "woman stays at home so deserves the kids and mommy...errr...child support" standard vs the "Husband stayed at home? Lazy bum should have gone out and gotten a job so doesn't deserve the kids!" standard.

[Stallywood]

Somebody else wrote:

Men - just another accessory to womens' wardrobes.

Thats the thought I was looking for. This woman is getting old, and has done her thing for years. Now shes ready to have a kid but realizes she is going to need a wallet to get this done. Voila, kill two birds with one stone, get a kid, and a wallet....just like buying a purse.
Stally