Are alcoholic mates incorrigible?

[bluegrass]

You may not like the format, but the claim it's some kind of a placebo is bullshit, plain and simple.

I think the claim is that people who drink can just stop.

And I think that's right, because I've seen it.

And that ABSOLUTELY goes against what psychologists and Very Important Dr. Phil-types and all the rest will say.

I've seen a lot of alcoholics in my life and in my opiion there are two kinds:

-Those who drink because they have personality disorders

-Those who have personality disorders because they drink.

The latter can stop.  tThe former cannot.

[neoteny]

I've heard psychology types spout things pretty close to saying that no one can stop on their own. You have to put yourself in the hands of a psychologist.

That's what I'm disputing.

No one here made that point and it has nothing to do with what you quoted from CC; apart from that, you're right.

[Galt]

I've heard psychology types spout things pretty close to saying that no one can stop on their own. You have to put yourself in the hands of a psychologist.

That's what I'm disputing.

No one here made that point and it has nothing to do with what you quoted from CC; apart from that, you're right.

So I was kind of right about something at least. I'm happy about that!